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« Reply #175 on: January 10, 2012, 01:02:30 AM »
Quote from: piperspitt on January 09, 2012, 11:47:24 PM
I'm not so loyal to any seller that I would 33% more :/
$45 to $66 is a huge difference for one card.

Things to note:
- How much is shipping? If another item is being combined, so shipping is free, that can be huge. Especially when you're international.
- Yes in past I've paid 33% more with a seller because of a combination if shipping/ familiarity.
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« Reply #176 on: January 10, 2012, 08:09:48 AM »
33% more on a $3 card I can see, but not on a $45 card. The highest shipping I've ever seen on a single card is $4.95. Most Raw Deal players I have met are certainly looking to buy as cheap as possible. It feels like this seller is trying to artificially inflate the overall value of Raw Deal and not just his auctions. Most people will use eBay as a price barometer and the seller knows this.  That would explain why he is buying cards from other auctions and likely reselling them after he establishes a false market.
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« Reply #177 on: January 10, 2012, 10:12:54 AM »
Quote from: piperspitt on January 10, 2012, 08:09:48 AM
33% more on a $3 card I can see, but not on a $45 card. The highest shipping I've ever seen on a single card is $4.95. Most Raw Deal players I have met are certainly looking to buy as cheap as possible. It feels like this seller is trying to artificially inflate the overall value of Raw Deal and not just his auctions. Most people will use eBay as a price barometer and the seller knows this.  That would explain why he is buying cards from other auctions and likely reselling them after he establishes a false market.

This is EXACTLY what I feel, too.

I've been selling RAW Deal along with other collectibles as a whole online for, coming up on 15 years now (RD only since Vengeance). Clearly what piperspitt has outlined is what's going on. Having a small group of people pushing your bids up is not an uncommon (although illegal) thing. When the vast majority of buyers of collectibles in the online world base their prices on e-Bay sales, it forces me to have to be competitive while not cheapening the value of the product. However, I also want to make sure that I'm treating my customer's fairly.

It's all supply and demand. When every email I receive is asking for practically the same list of cards (AIUU, PLM, IYWTPYGTP, Unleashed Bomb, FTTOM - TB, etc. etc.), there's only so much you can offer buyers.

RAW Deal is getting harder and harder to find, and any smart player/collector knows this. I expect prices to go up over time, but when I'm quoting certain prices based on online sales history (e-Bay) and getting told that's too high, I share direct links to this seller's auctions to say "Look why I'm at this price."

I've got a bunch of RAW Deal listed right now (link is in the Buy/Sell section) and I don't expect to get a lot for most of them, but some are cards that this other seller has listed and I can assure you, I won't get his prices.

I'm not upset, just more curious than anything.

I'm done ...  Grin

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« Reply #178 on: January 10, 2012, 10:15:39 AM »
::sigh:: Fine... Make me go and look at the two different sellers and break it down.

Vela Cards doesn't have the international shipping prices outlined. He says "contact me for international shipping prices."
That usually indicates an unwillingness or unfamiliarity with international shipping. (Not saying that Tony is unfamiliar, just saying what is normally assumed)

It looks like all of Vela's stuff is up for bid. Which means the person has to contact Vela, find out shipping prices, and then bid, and wait for the auction to end. If the person is impulse purchasing (which I suspect is the case, since the other dude has card and cost fully indicated, and with buy it now there's no waiting) I totally understand why they're grabbing the other cards. They're available, and they KNOW with BiN that they're going to get the card, as opposed to waiting, and having no idea when it will return to ebay in the future.

I'm not doing this to slam Tony, because there is nothing wrong with what he's doing. However if he's frustrated over the discrepancy - from my experiences with Ebay that would be the difference.

Also - I know this for a fact - I've put stuff up buy it now at an inflated price, and because it's been desired, people have bought it.

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« Reply #179 on: January 10, 2012, 10:17:06 AM »
Quote from: VelaCards on January 10, 2012, 10:12:54 AM
I've got a bunch of RAW Deal listed right now (link is in the Buy/Sell section) and I don't expect to get a lot for most of them, but some are cards that this other seller has listed and I can assure you, I won't get his prices.

Please note folks - that where most users are expected to place their ebay auctions in their signatures, because of what Tony does for the Raw Deal community (distributing prize support among other things), he gets a free pass/perk/TY.

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« Reply #180 on: January 10, 2012, 10:18:41 AM »
Quote from: Antigoth on January 10, 2012, 10:17:06 AM
Quote from: VelaCards on January 10, 2012, 10:12:54 AM
I've got a bunch of RAW Deal listed right now (link is in the Buy/Sell section) and I don't expect to get a lot for most of them, but some are cards that this other seller has listed and I can assure you, I won't get his prices.

Please note folks - that where most users are expected to place their ebay auctions in their signatures, because of what Tony does for the Raw Deal community (distributing prize support among other things), he gets a free pass/perk/TY.



Sorry.  Sad That's why I didn't provide a link and tried to direct them to that section of the boards.

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« Reply #181 on: January 10, 2012, 10:20:26 AM »
Quote from: VelaCards on January 10, 2012, 10:18:41 AM
Sorry.  Sad That's why I didn't provide a link and tried to direct them to that section of the boards.

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No apologies needed. But when I delete other auctions and get people ranting about double standards, experience has taught me that being proactive keeps the drama lama at bay.

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« Reply #182 on: January 10, 2012, 10:26:52 AM »
Quote from: Antigoth on January 10, 2012, 10:15:39 AM
::sigh:: Fine... Make me go and look at the two different sellers and break it down.

Vela Cards doesn't have the international shipping prices outlined. He says "contact me for international shipping prices."
That usually indicates an unwillingness or unfamiliarity with international shipping. (Not saying that Tony is unfamiliar, just saying what is normally assumed)

I generally leave that blank and will almost always get an email asking for prices (for 1 card or most often 5 or more). Typically, it's the same price I'm offering for here in the States for first class mail international. It only goes up (slightly and generally no more than $2.50 for total S/H) depending on the amount they are buying.

Quote from: Antigoth on January 10, 2012, 10:15:39 AM
Also - I know this for a fact - I've put stuff up buy it now at an inflated price, and because it's been desired, people have bought it.

Also, I guess because I don't have quantity on the items that he is getting these amazing prices on, so I don't list those kinds of cards. So there is that to consider, I suppose.

.... Just for the record ...

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« Reply #183 on: January 10, 2012, 03:03:51 PM »
Looks like there is only one game store in Belmont, NC.  Found that interesting.
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« Reply #184 on: January 13, 2012, 07:04:45 PM »
maybe the seller in question offers bonuses along with other cards purchased?  or print outs of VRD cards, a friend of mine bought some cards locally with a load of VRD cards printed professionally
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« Reply #185 on: January 15, 2012, 07:27:05 PM »
THE PACKERS LOST?!  REALLY?!  REALLY?!

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« Reply #186 on: January 15, 2012, 08:37:46 PM »
I honestly think this had something to do with it, I was thinking it the day I heard about it:
http://www.nj.com/giants/index.ssf/2012/01/packers_offensive_coordinator.html

next year the pack is gunna roflstomp some people hopefully.
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« Reply #187 on: January 16, 2012, 04:30:28 AM »
Ebay is basically the only other way to go other than this site, and people (myself included) are probably trying to bring Raw Deal back to their area..which means getting the "flashy" cards and pretty much just having a few friends that remember how awesome it was...which translates into all of them jumping onto ebay and spending $$ for cards that are probably worth half that much lol and to "stadiumike" (ebay name) I have a bid on like 4 or 5 of your items  Tongue haha
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« Reply #188 on: January 16, 2012, 07:47:03 PM »
Quote from: RyanFromVa on January 16, 2012, 04:30:28 AM
and to "stadiumike" (ebay name) I have a bid on like 4 or 5 of your items  Tongue haha

Thanks!  Grin
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« Reply #189 on: January 16, 2012, 09:40:58 PM »
Haha no problem, I was the one that asked about the edge set too btw, I'm trying to get his full set sooo bad  Cry haha I'm hoping to win your goldberg set though, one of my buddies was saying he'd get back into it if he had his goldberg deck back, so I'm trying to help that process lol
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« Reply #190 on: January 16, 2012, 10:55:02 PM »
how much does if you want to play you gotta pay go for these days???
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« Reply #191 on: January 17, 2012, 06:05:14 AM »
Quote from: Prong1978 on January 16, 2012, 07:47:03 PM
Quote from: RyanFromVa on January 16, 2012, 04:30:28 AM
and to "stadiumike" (ebay name) I have a bid on like 4 or 5 of your items  Tongue haha

Thanks!  Grin

Im also bidding on some of your ebay items.  its gonna be interesting! Cool
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« Reply #192 on: January 17, 2012, 07:06:37 PM »
 Shocked oh man!! I hope it's not the same items lol
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« Reply #193 on: February 04, 2012, 05:58:51 PM »
its that time again guys, whats it worth to you?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190633919036?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1431.l2649#ht_500wt_885
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« Reply #194 on: February 05, 2012, 10:55:29 AM »
Quote from: hulkamania170 on February 04, 2012, 05:58:51 PM
its that time again guys, whats it worth to you?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/190633919036?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1431.l2649#ht_500wt_885

$71? nice! I should sell some of my cards....
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« Reply #195 on: February 05, 2012, 11:13:07 AM »
You'll get $22 for the same card, lol
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« Reply #196 on: February 05, 2012, 11:45:57 AM »
I just sold 7 cards on eBay. Made $7.29! Then Ebay took some money and Paypal took some money...don't think I'll be using that route again.
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« Reply #197 on: February 05, 2012, 06:12:05 PM »
No surprise from this seller:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/200709773598?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_500wt_1054

Let's see how much this one goes for:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WWE-WWF-Raw-Deal-Patented-Rock-Footstomp-TB-UR-SS3-Very-Rare-Throwback-/110820869527?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19cd704597#ht_500wt_1287
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« Reply #198 on: February 06, 2012, 09:44:07 AM »
The second Footstomp TB on there is mine, so I hope it goes for a lot. Haha.
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« Reply #199 on: February 06, 2012, 10:56:21 AM »
Quote from: halo_t on February 06, 2012, 09:44:07 AM
The second Footstomp TB on there is mine, so I hope it goes for a lot. Haha.

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