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[BrysonYuzyk]

So if you play in the Stip phase and they play a Manager then it does nothing or it hits their first Event?

104/300
Old School Wrestling Match
Pre-match Stipulation
Your opponent's next Pre-match Event played is blank while this card is in your Ring.
F: 0      D: 0

It hits the first Event.

+5 DKP

[That Guy]

I realize that managers in the past have always been universally unique, but is it really logical to have "Just another Pretty Face" be Universal? Since the best reversal in the set (IMO) requires a manager, having only three means that you have to get lucky if you have a lower SS value. Making this very, very generic manager non-universal might help out those with lower SS. Just a thought.

[TempestTenor]

I realize that managers in the past have always been universally unique, but is it really logical to have "Just another Pretty Face" be Universal? Since the best reversal in the set (IMO) requires a manager, having only three means that you have to get lucky if you have a lower SS value. Making this very, very generic manager non-universal might help out those with lower SS. Just a thought.

While I agree that it makes a lot of sense to make Just Another Pretty Face not universal (I mean come on, it's implied in the name!),  doesn't a low SSV Superstar simply have to pack 2 different Managers to guarantee that he will get 1 out?

[BrysonYuzyk]

I realize that managers in the past have always been universally unique, but is it really logical to have "Just another Pretty Face" be Universal? Since the best reversal in the set (IMO) requires a manager, having only three means that you have to get lucky if you have a lower SS value. Making this very, very generic manager non-universal might help out those with lower SS. Just a thought.

It's actually funny that you bring this up, because up until about the 2nd to last revision, NONE of the managers were Universally Unique.

The addition of said trait to this card isn't particularly thematic, I agree, but I would rather see people packing multiple Managers to get some variety out there, rather than just defaulting to JAPF in most low-SSV decks.

Besides, if worst comes to worst, you can always GM's Word -> Whatever your opponent's manager is.

[That Guy]

Well, you could GM's law, then you're using 2 cards to gain access to one. If your opponent has OSWM in their ring, then you have to skip something, then GM's, then manager out. Another thing, GM's law says non-RMS, but by looking at it, nothing in the set is RMS, so is that foreshadowing to future sets or just there to cover your ass?

[BrysonYuzyk]

Well, you could GM's law, then you're using 2 cards to gain access to one. If your opponent has OSWM in their ring, then you have to skip something, then GM's, then manager out. Another thing, GM's law says non-RMS, but by looking at it, nothing in the set is RMS, so is that foreshadowing to future sets or just there to cover your ass?

Just being careful ^_^;;

[Revolution_Payback]

OK maybe I am not understanding the math but I am interpreting Technicality as discarding 9 cards if you play all three and not 14, basically discarding three cards per Technicality.

117/300
Technicality
Pre-match Event
At the end of the Pre-match phase, you may discard 1 non-Reversal card for each copy of this card in your Ring.  If you do, search your Arsenal for 1 card, put it face down under this card and shuffle your Arsenal.
When this card is in your Ring, if one of your Styles is Technical or if your opponent has a Maneuver in his Ring, non-Unique Reversals under this card may be played as if they were in your Hand.
If this card is removed from your Ring, put all cards under this card into your Ringside.
F: 0      D: 0

[BrysonYuzyk]

OK maybe I am not understanding the math but I am interpreting Technicality as discarding 9 cards if you play all three and not 14, basically discarding three cards per Technicality.

117/300
Technicality
Pre-match Event
At the end of the Pre-match phase, you may discard 1 non-Reversal card for each copy of this card in your Ring.  If you do, search your Arsenal for 1 card, put it face down under this card and shuffle your Arsenal.
When this card is in your Ring, if one of your Styles is Technical or if your opponent has a Maneuver in his Ring, non-Unique Reversals under this card may be played as if they were in your Hand.
If this card is removed from your Ring, put all cards under this card into your Ringside.
F: 0      D: 0

Where are you getting the number 14 from?

[Revolution_Payback]

In a previous post the numbers 1 4 and 9 were together for three Technicalitys. I thought that was the cost for playing all three of them...never mind. Sorry for the waste of time.

[BrysonYuzyk]

In a previous post the numbers 1 4 and 9 were together for three Technicalitys. I thought that was the cost for playing all three of them...never mind. Sorry for the waste of time.

Don't worry about it!

For clarification:

1 Technicality - 1 discard
2 Technicality - 4 discard (2 each)
3 Technicality - 9 discard (3 each)

[Mitch!]

where the heck is my Back to Basics? Thats what I want to know...

[BrysonYuzyk]

where the heck is my Back to Basics? Thats what I want to know...

001/Mitch
Back to Basics
Pre-match Feud
Search your Arsenal for the cards titled...

...

...?

I HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO FINISH THIS CARD MITCH.

[CreedP]

Yeah, Mitch, you have to wait for the old cards to become outdated before they are B2B material..

CREED

[Dark Knight Bob]

where the heck is my Back to Basics? Thats what I want to know...

253/300
CM Punk (Superstar Card)
Starting Hand Size: 5
Superstar Value: 3
Superstar Ability:
At the end of the Pre-match phase, search your Arsenal for non-Unique Submission maneuvers, reveal them to your opponent, and add them to your Backlash until you have 20 cards in your Backlash.

[Mitch!]

where the heck is my Back to Basics? Thats what I want to know...

001/Mitch
Back to Basics
Pre-match Feud
Search your Arsenal for the cards titled...

...

...?

I HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO FINISH THIS CARD MITCH.

Do this

001/Mitch
Back to Basics
Pre-match Feud
You can only play Pre-match cards with the words "old school" in the title.
Your opponent cannot play the card titled Hell in a Cell Match.
Search your Arsenal for 1 of each of the cards titled Arm Bar, Arm Bar Takedown, Arm Drag, Atomic Drop, Belly to Back Suplex, Belly to Belly Suplex, Body Slam, Chop, Clothesline, Collar & Elbow Lockup, Drop Kick, Haymaker, Head Butt, Hip Toss, Press Slam, Punch, Roundhouse Punch, Russian Leg Sweep, Snap Mare, Vertical Suplex, Wrist Lock, Backhand Slap, Drop Toe Hold, Elbow Drop, Foot Stomp, and Hammerlock, reveal them to your opponent, and put them under this card. You may play these cards as if they were in your hand. Your opponent searches your Arsenal and Backlash deck. If he finds any non-Superstar-specific Maneuver cards, you lose the game via Pinfall Victory. Shuffle your Arsenal.
Permanent
¶ (Restricted Modification Symbol)

If this card is played by Mitch you may play any pre-match you like and your pre-match slots are increased by 5.  If your opponent is Roddy Roddy Piper he may not play the card titled Pipers Pit
F: 0      D: 0

I would take a card like that

[Mitch!]

Yeah, Mitch, you have to wait for the old cards to become outdated before they are B2B material..

CREED

But without basics I will actually have to make a real deck thats no fun beating people with good maneuvers....now finishing someone with a wrist lock I happened to pump to 12D...now thats fun

[TempestTenor]

Right.  So Jump the Bell is completely sick.  You get to play maneuvers before the game starts and if your opponent reverses them from hand...you get your maneuver back in your hand while your opponent has wasted his reversal.

Lent MediumSexy my Khali deck today on Lackey...Khali + 3x Jump the Bell + a bit of bad luck on my part = LOL

Jump the Bell is bad bad stuff...it really needs to be nerfed.  It needs to at least be made Active.

[MediumSexy]

Haha, yeah... that was fun... on another note, though...

I can't find "Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada" anywhere in the Pre-Match spoilers... (trying to fix the blank text on it)

Oh, I'll have an update for lackeynrd online tomorrow evening, complete with the "Styles" on each card!!!

(That means post the changes I need to make on each card today!!!)

-Ric

[BrysonYuzyk]

Jump the Bell is bad bad stuff...it really needs to be nerfed.  It needs to at least be made Active.

It's not that bad, I assure you <3

I can't find "Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada" anywhere in the Pre-Match spoilers... (trying to fix the blank text on it)

Vancouver was just a placeholder.  It's Washington now.

[Bobino]

I realize that managers in the past have always been universally unique, but is it really logical to have "Just another Pretty Face" be Universal? Since the best reversal in the set (IMO) requires a manager, having only three means that you have to get lucky if you have a lower SS value. Making this very, very generic manager non-universal might help out those with lower SS. Just a thought.

It's actually funny that you bring this up, because up until about the 2nd to last revision, NONE of the managers were Universally Unique.

The addition of said trait to this card isn't particularly thematic, I agree, but I would rather see people packing multiple Managers to get some variety out there, rather than just defaulting to JAPF in most low-SSV decks.

Besides, if worst comes to worst, you can always GM's Word -> Whatever your opponent's manager is.

EDIT: I need to read all of a card before posting, kk?

[Revolution_Payback]

Are Stipulations still implyed to be Unique?

[JaysonPhenix]

Yes and No.  Yes unless you play the GM says so card that allows for anther one i think

[BrysonYuzyk]

Are Stipulations still implyed to be Unique?

Stipulations are not Unique (a trait which means that you can only pack one of them in your deck), although you can still only play one Stipulation during the Pre-match phase (as per the rules of Raw Deal) unless other cards allow you to do so.

For example, you could play "The GM's Word is Law", as JP says, to play multiples of the same Stip.  Does this answer your question?

[JaysonPhenix]

oh crap i can play the same stip twice?  i always used that to play a 2nd different one lol whoops

[Revolution_Payback]

yes it does thank you  and glad to see we are still going strong.

Thing to remember as a manager:
1) You can only do what you can do.
2) Let it go
3) How do we do it better next time