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175/300
Edge (Superstar Card)
Starting Hand Size: 7
Superstar Value: 4
Superstar Ability:
When your opponent successfully plays an Action card, choose 1: they discard 1 card or you may draw 1 card.  When you successfully play an Action card to your Ring, your opponent overturns 1 card.

176/300
Live Sex Celebration (Edge Logo)
Pre-match Stipulation
When either player plays a non-Run-in Maneuver card, they discard 1 card.
Unique
F: 0      D: 0

177/300
Edge’s Spear (Edge Logo)
Mid-match Trademark Finisher / Reversal: Special
As a maneuver, this card is -30F.  If your Fortitude Rating is greater than or equal to 30, this card is +10D and +2SV.
As a reversal, reverse any card.
Unique
TORSO
SV: 1
F: 40      D: 10

178/300
The Edgeheads Interfere (Edge Logo)
Strike + Grapple: Run-in
Unique
Multi
BACK
F: 0      D: 6

179/300
Chavo Interferes (Edge Logo)
Reversal: Special: Run-in
Reverse any Grapple or Submission or any non-Set-Up Action of D:1 or greater.
Unique
F: 6      D: 4

180/300
Vickie Guerrero Interferes (Edge Logo)
Action: Run-in
Put any number of Mid-match cards from your Ring into your Backlash.  Your  Reversal cards are F: 0.
Unique
F: 20      D: 0

211/300
Kane (Superstar Card)
Starting Hand Size: 7
Superstar Value: 4
Superstar Ability:
At the start of each of your turns, before your Draw Segment, your opponent overturns 1 card.  He overturns 1 additional card for every difference of 10 in your Fortitude Ratings.

212/300
The Mask ... Stays On (Kane Logo)
Pre-match Event
Your opponent overturns 6 cards.
When this card is in your Ring, your opponent’s maneuvers are -2D.
Unique
F: 0      D: 0

213/300
Kane Sits Up! (Kane Logo)
Mid-match Reversal: Special
This card is -#F, where # is the number of Reversals in your Ringside.
Reverse any non-Trademark-Finisher maneuver and end your opponent’s turn.
You may draw 1 card.
Unique
F: 20      D: 4

214/300
Hellfire Chokeslam (Kane Logo)
Trademark Finisher
Unique
BACK
SV: 4
F: 30      D: 25

215/300
Everybody Wants Your Soul (Kane Logo)
Reversal: Special
Reverse any Strike, Grapple or Submission and end your opponent’s turn.
Choose 1: Shuffle up to 3 cards; or shuffle up to 5 Reversals from your Ringside into your Arsenal.
Unique
F: 7      D: 2

216/300
Hellfire and Brimstone (Kane Logo)
Action
Both players discard their hands and your opponent overturns 6 cards.
Unique
F: 6      D: 0

217/300
Umaga (Superstar Card)
Starting Hand Size: 0
Superstar Value: 3
Superstar Ability:
During your draw phase, instead of drawing, randomly discard 1 card.
During the match, after either player successfully plays a card, draw 1 card.

218/300
Managed by Armandoooo Alejandroooo Estraaada (Umaga Logo)
Pre-match Manager
During the Pre-match, after either player successfully plays a card, draw 1 card.
Unique
F: 0      D: 0

219/300
Samoan Spike (Umaga Logo)
Mid-match Trademark Finisher
When played, discard your hand.  This card is -2F and +1D for each card discarded.
This card is +#D, where # is the difference between this card’s Fortitude Value and your Fortitude Rating.
Unique
HEAD
SV: 4
F: 50      D: 10

220/300
Top Rope Samoan Headbutt (Umaga Logo)
High Risk
Can only be played after a 5D or greater maneuver.
Unique
HEAD
SV: 3
F: 30      D: 30

221/300
Samoan Rage (Umaga Logo)
Reversal: Special
Reverse any Strike or Grapple.
Unique
F: 3      D: 3

222/300
Samoan Bulldozer (Umaga Logo)
Strike / Action: Set-up
As a maneuver, when played after a Set-up, this card is considered a High Risk.
As an action this card is -10F and -10D, shuffle this card into your Arsenal and draw 1 card.
Unique
TORSO
SV: 2
F: 10      D: 10

265/300
Cryme Tyme (Superstar Card)
Starting Hand Size: 7
Superstar Value: 2
Tag Team (2) Ability:
Once during each of your turns, you may discard 1 card.  If you do, your opponent randomly discards 1 card.  He may then offer to discard any number of cards, overturn any number of cards, allow you to draw any number of cards and allow you to shuffle any number of cards from your Ringside into your Arsenal.  If you agree, he returns the discarded card to his hand and you and he perform the agreed upon actions.

266/300
Pop a 40 and Check Your Rollies...It’s Cryme Tyme! (Cryme Tyme Logo)
Pre-match Event
Choose 1 card in your opponent’s Ring.
When this card is in your Ring, this card gains that card’s text and that card reads as blank text.
After this card is successfully played, or at the start of your opponent’s turn, he may discard 10 cards from his Backlash.  If he does, put this card into your Ringside.
Unique
F: 0      D: 0

267/300
If You Desire It, We'll Acquire It (Cryme Tyme Logo)
Mid-match Action
When this card is in your Ring, at the start of each of your turns, before your Draw Phase, you may choose 1 card in your opponent's Ring.  If you do, he chooses one of the following: You draw cards equal to the chosen card's Fortitude Value; you draw cards equal to the chosen card's Damage Value and put this card into your Ringside; or he puts that card into his Ringside.
Unique
F: 21      D: 0

268/300
The G9 (Cryme Tyme Logo)
Trademark Finisher / Reversal: Special
As a maneuver, this card is +9F and +9D
As a reversal, reverse any maneuver with printed Damage Value greater than the number of cards in your Arsenal.
Unique
HEAD/BACK
SV: 2
F: 18      D: 7

269/300
Yo, Yo, Yo, Yo! (Cryme Tyme Logo)
Reversal: Special
Reverse any card with a Style.
Unique
F: 2      D: 2

270/300
Stealin' the Wins (Cryme Tyme Logo)
Action
If your opponent has 6 or less cards in his Arsenal, he loses the game via Pinfall victory.
Unique
F: 24      D: 0

283/300
Hornswoggle (Superstar Card)
Starting Hand Size: 5
Superstar Value: 1
Superstar Ability:
You may discard 2 Reversal cards to reverse any non-Unique Maneuver.  If you do, your opponent overturns 3 cards.
You cannot play Maneuvers unless they are Unique, 3D or less, or Run-ins.

284/300
Managed by Father Finlay (Hornswoggle Logo)
Pre-match Manager
Your first maneuver played each turn is considered a Run-in.
Unique
F: 0      D: 0

285/300
Run to your Home (Hornswoggle Logo)
Mid-match Reversal: Special
Reverse any non-Run-in, non-Unique maneuver of 4D or greater.
Unique
F: 9      D: 3

286/300
Tadpole Splash (Hornswoggle Logo)
Trademark Finisher
Can only be played after a successfully played maneuver.
When this card is in your Ring, you may put it into your hand instead of having your opponent overturn 3 cards for your Superstar Ability.
Unique
TORSO
SV: 1
F: 15      D: 9

287/300
'Swoggletoss (Hornswoggle Logo)
High Risk: Run-in / Reversal: Special
As a maneuver, can only be played after a successfully played Run-in and can only be reversed from your opponent's Arsenal.
As a reversal, when played from Hand, reveal your Hand to your opponent and reverse any non-Unique maneuver.  Can only be played when you have no other Reversal cards in hand.
Unique
TORSO
SV: 2
F: 6      D: 6

288/300
The Luck o' The Irish (Hornswoggle Logo)
Action
Reveal cards from the top of your Arsenal until you reveal 2 Reversal cards.  Put the revealed Reversals into your Hand and shuffle your Arsenal.
Unique
F: 3      D: 0

[dilbert505]

That's it. I'm playing Cryme Tyme. I don't care what else comes out, I haven't figured out a strategy, but that ability must be mine. I mean, at its absolute worst, it's RDAP Jericho + Shut the Hell Up, and beyond that, I get to barter with people. Damn. (Not to mention that Pop a 40 is fun as hell.)

[TempestTenor]

Random thoughts:

Edge's ability applies to Set-up actions as well?  Seems pretty brutal.

The Mask Stays On makes Santino Marella very sad.

Umaga is...interesting.

Cryme Tyme is...huh?  Wha?  I can't be reading this right...

[BrysonYuzyk]

Edge's ability applies to Set-up actions as well?  Seems pretty brutal.

If Edge is hitting you with multiple Set-ups, you've probably got bigger problems than the 1 overturn for each ^_^;;

[The Joker]

WOW!!! all of these are just fantastic! i love the idea behind hornswoggle and cryme tyme. these will be so much fun to play. edge will be different to say the least, but still fun. kane is...welll...kane. nuff said there. umaga seems very interesting and i will be interested in playing him. i cant wait to use these in NRD play!

[BrysonYuzyk]

WOW!!! all of these are just fantastic! i love the idea behind hornswoggle and cryme tyme. these will be so much fun to play. edge will be different to say the least, but still fun. kane is...welll...kane. nuff said there. umaga seems very interesting and i will be interested in playing him. i cant wait to use these in NRD play!

Thank you ^_^;;

[JaysonPhenix]

218/300
Managed by Armandoooo Alejandroooo Estraaada (Umaga Logo)
Pre-match Manager
During the Pre-match, after either player successfully plays a card, draw 1 card.
Unique
F: 0      D: 0

I scream for Old School Pyschology!   

[The Joker]

i know my opinion means next to nothing but if these last few spoilers show anything its that this set will be just awesome! i cant wait to see what you did with kennedy, orton, and mvp!!!

[TempestTenor]

Edge's ability applies to Set-up actions as well?  Seems pretty brutal.

If Edge is hitting you with multiple Set-ups, you've probably got bigger problems than the 1 overturn for each ^_^;;

I was referring to the first part of his ability mostly.  My understanding is that "action hate" is usually directed at non-set-up actions to punish those who use actions instead of maneuvers to win games.  Set-up actions usually lead to some kind of big maneuver, which I thought should be encouraged because it mimics actual wrestling.

[// Muxa Luxa //]

265/300
Cryme Tyme (Superstar Card)
Starting Hand Size: 7
Superstar Value: 2
Tag Team (2) Ability:
Once during each of your turns, you may discard 1 card.  If you do, your opponent randomly discards 1 card.  He may then offer to discard any number of cards, overturn any number of cards, allow you to draw up to that number of cards and allow you to shuffle any number of cards from your Ringside into your Arsenal.  If you agree, he returns the discarded card to his hand and you and he perform the agreed upon actions.

this way cryme time will not lose if your op. choose 60 cards (unless he can only choose a number according to the number of cards he has actually in his hand).

[JaysonPhenix]

well he kind of kills himself first before that happens as he has to overturn first

[TempestTenor]

Okay I think I've been misreading Cryme Tyme.  The point of their ability is to allow their opponent to bargain with Cryme Tyme to get that randomly discarded card back, right?  Is there a mechanism for counteroffers or does the opponent have only one opportunity to name an offer without consulting with Cryme Tyme?

Edit:
Also, the opponent has the ability to choose four different numbers for the four different self-detrimental/pro-Cryme-Tyme effects right?

[TempestTenor]

265/300
Cryme Tyme (Superstar Card)
Starting Hand Size: 7
Superstar Value: 2
Tag Team (2) Ability:
Once during each of your turns, you may discard 1 card.  If you do, your opponent randomly discards 1 card.  He may then offer to discard any number of cards, overturn any number of cards, allow you to draw up to that number of cards and allow you to shuffle any number of cards from your Ringside into your Arsenal.  If you agree, he returns the discarded card to his hand and you and he perform the agreed upon actions.

this way cryme time will not lose if your op. choose 60 cards (unless he can only choose a number according to the number of cards he has actually in his hand).

Well if Cryme Tyme's opponent names 60 as the number of cards for Cryme Tyme to draw, Cryme Tyme can just refuse the whole offer and the opponent won't get his card back.  There's nothing that binds Cryme Tyme to accept the offer that his opponent puts out.

[BrysonYuzyk]

Good comments all around.  Here's a few of my own.

I was referring to the first part of his ability mostly.  My understanding is that "action hate" is usually directed at non-set-up actions to punish those who use actions instead of maneuvers to win games.  Set-up actions usually lead to some kind of big maneuver, which I thought should be encouraged because it mimics actual wrestling.

Edge, as I'm sure you can tell, has an anti-Maneuver theme to him.  Allowing his ability punish your opponent for playing Set-ups was intentional, as it follows along with this theme.  You have to plan your attack carefully against him.

265/300
Cryme Tyme (Superstar Card)
Starting Hand Size: 7
Superstar Value: 2
Tag Team (2) Ability:
Once during each of your turns, you may discard 1 card.  If you do, your opponent randomly discards 1 card.  He may then offer to discard any number of cards, overturn any number of cards, allow you to draw up to that number of cards and allow you to shuffle any number of cards from your Ringside into your Arsenal.  If you agree, he returns the discarded card to his hand and you and he perform the agreed upon actions.

this way cryme time will not lose if your op. choose 60 cards (unless he can only choose a number according to the number of cards he has actually in his hand).

Although your intentions are good, this won't happen the way you describe.

Mr. Tenor is correct: If your opponent names 60 as the number of cards for CT to draw, CT just refuses the offer.  That's why it says 'If you agree...'

Okay I think I've been misreading Cryme Tyme.  The point of their ability is to allow their opponent to bargain with Cryme Tyme to get that randomly discarded card back, right?  Is there a mechanism for counteroffers or does the opponent have only one opportunity to name an offer without consulting with Cryme Tyme?

Edit:
Also, the opponent has the ability to choose four different numbers for the four different self-detrimental/pro-Cryme-Tyme effects right?

There needs to be no mechanism for counter-offers because both players can simply discuss the decision before your opponent makes his first (and only) official offer.

And yes, they can choose any combination of the four effects.

[TempestTenor]

There needs to be no mechanism for counter-offers because both players can simply discuss the decision before your opponent makes his first (and only) official offer.

Okay I wasn't sure if "table talk" discussions of the offer between the two players was allowed or not.

[BrysonYuzyk]

There needs to be no mechanism for counter-offers because both players can simply discuss the decision before your opponent makes his first (and only) official offer.

Okay I wasn't sure if "table talk" discussions of the offer between the two players was allowed or not.

Yeah.  It's much easier to handle than a system which can theoretically go back and forth between offer and counter-offer forever.

[TempestTenor]

Edge, as I'm sure you can tell, has an anti-Maneuver theme to him.  Allowing his ability punish your opponent for playing Set-ups was intentional, as it follows along with this theme.  You have to plan your attack carefully against him.

175/300
Edge (Superstar Card)
Starting Hand Size: 7
Superstar Value: 4
Superstar Ability:
When your opponent successfully plays an Action card, choose 1: they discard 1 card or you may draw 1 card.  When you successfully play an Action card to your Ring, your opponent overturns 1 card.

176/300
Live Sex Celebration (Edge Logo)
Pre-match Stipulation
When either player plays a non-Run-in Maneuver card, they discard 1 card.
Unique
F: 0      D: 0

So Edge is anti-Action AND anti-Maneuvers?  What recourse would his opponent have then?  Between these two cards Edge's opponent's hand will deplete very quickly.

Edit: Well let me rephrase that.  I'm sure you guys playtested Edge and had the same concerns as I have.  How did Edge's opponent's hands NOT deplete quickly during playtesting?

Edit2: Live Sex Celebration makes Edge's opponent discard for even attempting to play a non-Run-in Maneuver.  That's just not cool 

[BrysonYuzyk]

Edit: Well let me rephrase that.  I'm sure you guys playtested Edge and had the same concerns as I have.  How did Edge's opponent's hands NOT deplete quickly during playtesting?

Care.

Extreme care.

On the up-side, none of what Edge does is voluntary on his part, so you can take all the time you need to get prepared to take it to him.  He can't make you discard until you /want/ to start discarding.

[Revolution_Payback]

Just for clarity's sake is Hornswoggle's ability printed 3D or less or actual damage dealt?

[BrysonYuzyk]

Just for clarity's sake is Hornswoggle's ability printed 3D or less or actual damage dealt?

It refers to the Damage of the card when it's played, whatever that may be.

[StraightEdge0722]

Hornswoggle (Superstar Card)
Starting Hand Size: 5
Superstar Value: 1
Superstar Ability:
You may discard 2 Reversal cards to reverse any non-Unique Maneuver.  If you do, your opponent overturns 3 cards.
You cannot play Maneuvers unless they are Unique, 3D or less, or Run-ins.

284/300
Managed by Father Finlay (Hornswoggle Logo)
Pre-match Manager
Your first maneuver played each turn is considered a Run-in.
Unique
F: 0      D: 0

Just had a little question about these two cards.  Does this mean that you can pack maneuvers of more than 3D, but only play them when Managed by Finlay is out?

[Dark Knight Bob]

Hornswoggle (Superstar Card)
Starting Hand Size: 5
Superstar Value: 1
Superstar Ability:
You may discard 2 Reversal cards to reverse any non-Unique Maneuver.  If you do, your opponent overturns 3 cards.
You cannot play Maneuvers unless they are Unique, 3D or less, or Run-ins.

Just had a little question about these two cards.  Does this mean that you can pack maneuvers of more than 3D, but only play them when Managed by Finlay is out?

Yes. Play, not pack.

[Treemonkey]

288/300
The Luck o' The Irish (Hornswoggle Logo)
Action
Reveal cards from the top of your Arsenal until you reveal 2 Reversal cards.  Put the revealed cards into your Hand and shuffle your Arsenal.
Unique
F: 3      D: 0

Quick question on this one:  Do you keep all the cards that are revealed into hand, or just the Reversals?  I read it as everything revealed goes to hand, is this the intention?

This stuff is awesome, keep it up!

[TempestTenor]

288/300
The Luck o' The Irish (Hornswoggle Logo)
Action
Reveal cards from the top of your Arsenal until you reveal 2 Reversal cards.  Put the revealed cards into your Hand and shuffle your Arsenal.
Unique
F: 3      D: 0

Quick question on this one:  Do you keep all the cards that are revealed into hand, or just the Reversals?  I read it as everything revealed goes to hand, is this the intention?

This stuff is awesome, keep it up!

What if you reveal your entire Arsenal without revealing 2 Reversal cards?  The answer is probably just to shuffle the revealed cards back into your Arsenal and do nothing, but I don't think that's explicitly obvious from the card's wording.

[JaysonPhenix]

Hornswoggle (Superstar Card)
Starting Hand Size: 5
Superstar Value: 1
Superstar Ability:
You may discard 2 Reversal cards to reverse any non-Unique Maneuver.  If you do, your opponent overturns 3 cards.
You cannot play Maneuvers unless they are Unique, 3D or less, or Run-ins.

284/300
Managed by Father Finlay (Hornswoggle Logo)
Pre-match Manager
Your first maneuver played each turn is considered a Run-in.
Unique
F: 0      D: 0

Just had a little question about these two cards.  Does this mean that you can pack maneuvers of more than 3D, but only play them when Managed by Finlay is out?

It's basically saying Hornswaggle just stands there as Daddy Finlay sneaks in and hits a move for him 

Early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.