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[Camulus]

002/PR
The Title Is On the Line!
Pre-match Event
When this card is in your Ring, your opponent's Pre-match Objects with "Title Belt" in the title have the added text "The maximum number of Pre-match cards you may have in your Ring is increased by 1."
If you win the game via Pinfall victory, search your opponent's Hand, Backlash, Ring, Ringside and Arsenal for 1 Pre-match Object with "Title Belt" in the title and add it to your Backlash Deck.
F: 0     D: 0

As much as I like what I've seen, I am not a fan of someone taking my cards.  I understand why you came up with the card, but once I have a card, especially if I had to earn it, I want to keep it.  I might be in the minority here, but this card would probably stop me from playing any type of tournament.  I'd rather see a card like this:

The Title is On the Line!
Pre-match Feud
Search your opponent's Backlash deck for a Pre-match Object with "Title Belt" in the title.  Remove the card from game.
No player may play any Pre-match card that is removed from game.

I thinks that's a better representation of a title being put up for grabs during a match, but that may just be me   

World Heavyweight Title Belt
Pre-match Object
Your Superstar Value is +3.
If your Superstar Value is greater than your opponent's, when you successfully play your first card of the Match, draw 3 cards.
Universally Unique
F: 0     D: 0

I think this card is a bit strong for high SV superstars.  You're guaranteeing they get an extra 3 cards in their hands very early on.  This is really just a stronger version of Underrated Superstar for high SV Superstars that has no upside if you are a lower SV Superstar.  Just not a fan of it.

A final teaser for the future:

Many of you have likely heard of WOW's Raid decks and the Vs. System Galactus box...

How about a Raw Deal challenge on the same level?

I'm actually not familiar with this.  I know of the HeroClicks Galactus.  Now, if your designing Super Faction decks 'O Doom, like say nWo Black, to go against say 2-4 normal decks, that would be pretty cool.  Other than that, I have no idea what you are talking about ...

[dwalls31]

Where will the URL for lackey be located? I was going to play Raw Deal Classic on lackey, but it could not find the URL. I am ready to play, bring it on!!! What time tonight will it be ready?

[BrysonYuzyk]

Where will the URL for lackey be located? I was going to play Raw Deal Classic on lackey, but it could not find the URL. I am ready to play, bring it on!!! What time tonight will it be ready?

Well, I just got home from work, so I'm starting on it now.  It'll probably take a couple of hours to re-review, so give it a little bit ^_^;;

As much as I like what I've seen, I am not a fan of someone taking my cards.  I understand why you came up with the card, but once I have a card, especially if I had to earn it, I want to keep it.  I might be in the minority here, but this card would probably stop me from playing any type of tournament.  I'd rather see a card like this:

The Title is On the Line!
Pre-match Feud
Search your opponent's Backlash deck for a Pre-match Object with "Title Belt" in the title.  Remove the card from game.
No player may play any Pre-match card that is removed from game.

I thinks that's a better representation of a title being put up for grabs during a match, but that may just be me  

The idea is to encourage prize-card mobility, both upwards and downwards.  Just consider the 'earning' part to be dynamic rather than static; To truly 'earn' one of the title belts, you need to continually have it up for grabs (instead of just winning 4-5 matches or buying it on ebay like before), just like in the WWE.

As for your card idea, it's a good one, but I disagree that it better represents a title being put up for grabs.  The original is /actually/ a title being put up for grabs, whereas your idea is simply preventing the title from being played and doesn't give any long-term benefit to the challenger whatsoever.

I think this card is a bit strong for high SV superstars.  You're guaranteeing they get an extra 3 cards in their hands very early on.  This is really just a stronger version of Underrated Superstar for high SV Superstars that has no upside if you are a lower SV Superstar.  Just not a fan of it.

The implication is that either

1) you're high SV, in which case this represents a transient version of Underrated which a) doesn't get you the cards in the pre-match and b) you can lose if you lose the match

2) you're low SV, in which case this takes the PLACE of Underrated since you can't make effective use of both

3) you're too low SV to make use of either ability, in which case perhaps some of the future released belts such as the Cruiserweight Title might be more appropriate.

I'm actually not familiar with this.  I know of the HeroClicks Galactus.  Now, if your designing Super Faction decks 'O Doom, like say nWo Black, to go against say 2-4 normal decks, that would be pretty cool.  Other than that, I have no idea what you are talking about ...

This is quite similar to what you're describing.  A challenge either for 1 or more players which would contain cards not normally playable in tournament games, with the odds clearly stacked in the challenge deck's favor.

[CreedP]

Like the broken-as-all DX I'd haul out at GenCon, yes. 

Funny, I'd been plotting another one... and it was nWo, heh.

CREED

[Commissioner D2]

Like the broken-as-all DX I'd haul out at GenCon, yes. 

Funny, I'd been plotting another one... and it was nWo, heh.

CREED

With Scott Norton!?!?

[CreedP]

No actually it would have been similar to DX, at least in the original design... you get Hogan, Hall & Nash, Big Show and X-Pac cards.  0HS, draw 1 for every superstar-specific you play (even in Pre-match), draw (another?) one for any nWo card.  nWo World Title as one of their exclusives, and extra space in the Backlash deck.  Never got around to finishing it, though.

CREED
Obsession is unhealthy. 

[dwalls31]

I am going to work and was wondering where the URL for the NRD patch for Lackey will be. WIll it be on this thread or somewhere else? I still have not figure out Lackey's engine, so when NRD is ready and I build my first deck (which should be easy since the decklist is already made) maybe someone would like to play against me to teach me tihe finer points of Lackey. I don't have IM, but my email is dwalls31@yahoo.com.  As soon as it is ready and i get my deck built let's set up some time to try it out. Anyone game?

[Camulus]

The idea is to encourage prize-card mobility, both upwards and downwards.  Just consider the 'earning' part to be dynamic rather than static; To truly 'earn' one of the title belts, you need to continually have it up for grabs (instead of just winning 4-5 matches or buying it on ebay like before), just like in the WWE.

Well, we'll agree to disagree.  Like I said, I figure I'm in the minority, but I might as well be a vocal minority   

As for your card idea, it's a good one, but I disagree that it better represents a title being put up for grabs.  The original is /actually/ a title being put up for grabs, whereas your idea is simply preventing the title from being played and doesn't give any long-term benefit to the challenger whatsoever.

I like the card too, just came up on it on the fly, so decided to post it.   Maybe it'll make it into a future edition *hint hint wink wink*

And I kinda mispoke (mistyped?).  That's what I get for looking at these forums during work.  I am not a fan of the ability for cards to change hands after a game, especially in the midst of a tournament, but again that's me.  My card represents the fact that when a champion and challenger are between the ropes and the bell rings, no one is champion until the bell rings to end the match.  So, that's my card to represnt that.  And I still think its a cool card   

The implication is that either

1) you're high SV, in which case this represents a transient version of Underrated which a) doesn't get you the cards in the pre-match and b) you can lose if you lose the match

2) you're low SV, in which case this takes the PLACE of Underrated since you can't make effective use of both

3) you're too low SV to make use of either ability, in which case perhaps some of the future released belts such as the Cruiserweight Title might be more appropriate.

1) I'll admit to not having the time to really look at the set as a whole, just trying to read it in bits and pieces as I go.  But, from RDC I always thought there a balance between SV (chances of going first), HS (resources readily available) and ability.  If memory serves, the higher the SV, the lower the HS usually became, or an ability would be more muted.  I just think the a 3 card bonus for a high SV is a big swing that'll have people wanting to play higher SV more often than low SVs.  And again I'm not a fan of transient cards, but that's enough on that subject.

2) See, I don't see it that way.  As a low SV, its more of a gamble to pack the title becuase chances are I won't be able to play it before someone else does.  Just pack Underrated and be done with it.  Mid range SV it might be more useful since you'll be out of Underrated range anyway.  But again, why take the gamble?  I'll just play a high SV and guarantee the card swing in my favor.

3) I'm not one to look at potential anything, just what I have at hand.  If your intent to give the low SV some title lovin' I would have released that with the high SV love just to keep things even. 

Just my 2 cents, and I'm running out of change... 

This is quite similar to what you're describing.  A challenge either for 1 or more players which would contain cards not normally playable in tournament games, with the odds clearly stacked in the challenge deck's favor.

Now that, that's cool.  Wonder if I can finnagle that with the RDC cards I have...

I am going to work and was wondering where the URL for the NRD patch for Lackey will be. WIll it be on this thread or somewhere else? I still have not figure out Lackey's engine, so when NRD is ready and I build my first deck (which should be easy since the decklist is already made) maybe someone would like to play against me to teach me tihe finer points of Lackey. I don't have IM, but my email is dwalls31@yahoo.com.  As soon as it is ready and i get my deck built let's set up some time to try it out. Anyone game?

As for NRD for Lackey
Linky

[King Jimmeh]

There is a good point there about the title changing hands during a tournament. What happens if I enter the tournament packing the title belt in my 10 pre-match, and then lose it. At that I should be disqualified for not packing a full 10 pre-match, or changing my deck from when I started.

[Dark Knight Bob]

There is a good point there about the title changing hands during a tournament. What happens if I enter the tournament packing the title belt in my 10 pre-match, and then lose it. At that I should be disqualified for not packing a full 10 pre-match, or changing my deck from when I started.

There's no rule stating you NEED a full Pre-Match, and an exception can be made for the belts if need be as far as the "deck changing mid tourney"

[BrysonYuzyk]

There is a good point there about the title changing hands during a tournament. What happens if I enter the tournament packing the title belt in my 10 pre-match, and then lose it. At that I should be disqualified for not packing a full 10 pre-match, or changing my deck from when I started.

There's no rule stating you NEED a full Pre-Match, and an exception can be made for the belts if need be as far as the "deck changing mid tourney"

Mr. Bob is correct in this case, on both points.

Belts will effectively allow you to break the 10-pack rule.

[Revolution_Payback]

Silly question is Team X-Treme actually in Throwback or are they promo only?

[Commissioner D2]

No actually it would have been similar to DX, at least in the original design... you get Hogan, Hall & Nash, Big Show and X-Pac cards.  0HS, draw 1 for every superstar-specific you play (even in Pre-match), draw (another?) one for any nWo card.  nWo World Title as one of their exclusives, and extra space in the Backlash deck.  Never got around to finishing it, though.

CREED
Obsession is unhealthy. 

Creed, amigo, consider this built for Con.  If you had any set strategy, send it my way.

[BrysonYuzyk]

Silly question is Team X-Treme actually in Throwback or are they promo only?

They'll be in Throwback, with a full set of cards.

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