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[thedemonkiller]

just out of curiosity but why do no cards have the raven logo and he isnt on the superstar card but you may pack any of his non premacth cards in the psycho ward?

what a good question, it's mostly because Raven kind of shows up randomly and he isn't really part of it, i think Daffney and Richards for sure... but Raven? not so much, so Ward can pack his cards for when he is randomly around. But really he can pack Hardcore isn't a word. Personally i don't think he needs anymore support especially that which is offered by Ward

[njbrock22]

yeah in reality Hardcore is a Lifestyle is really the only card raven needed from this, he's a beast anyways.  Keep 'em coming, also you did check both of my superstars right?

N.J.

[originaldeadman88]

just out of curiosity but why do no cards have the raven logo and he isnt on the superstar card but you may pack any of his non premacth cards in the psycho ward?

what a good question, it's mostly because Raven kind of shows up randomly and he isn't really part of it, i think Daffney and Richards for sure... but Raven? not so much, so Ward can pack his cards for when he is randomly around. But really he can pack Hardcore isn't a word. Personally i don't think he needs anymore support especially that which is offered by Ward

ok i understand now. it is true that raven is rarely seen. for that reason, i would put a limit on what cards they can and cannot use. for instance, say they can only use raven effect ddt, i feel your pain, and qouth the raven. my reasoning behind these is simple. obiously raven effect is due to its a TMF, i feel your pain because it ties in with the psycho ward sterotype, and quoth because its basically him saying thats the end of the story whether you like it or not.

[thedemonkiller]

MAN ALIVE! HOW LONG HAVE I LEFT THIS FOR!
Anyway, i'm back now home at last, and i can confirm that the next wave (with support for all previous superstars sill active) will be:

The Pope
Amazing red
Suicide
Eric Young

(there will be prize support for this which is World Elite and The Band)

Added to the support for the others there will be additionally a card for each of these new WWE superstars
Tazz
Foley
Hogan
Flair
Kennedy
Hall/Nash
Jeff
RVD

(maybe Christy Hemme)

oh and Steiner will be having a good bye card...
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there will also be a special "Brit" edition with Desmonde Wolfe and The British invasion in released before or after the wave 12...

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I am also working on a Knockouts only set right now i have ODB, Wilde, Angelina Love and Daffney (but i'm reaching for card titles so suggestions would be appreciated) (the prize support for this wave will be Cody Deaner, the knockouts title and Sean Morly thought i should have a kind of theme)

[thedemonkiller]

well i'm back and all the new cards are ready... however I am considering doing an Ex- WWE set with remakes for Jeff, Victoria and Burrke (if I do that then Burkke won't be in this set of course and there won't be any card support for Jeff and Tara either) what do you guys think?

[Rip]

I say make the Pope and then do a WWE remake set with Tazz, Victoria, Hardy, Nash, and Dudley Boyz....

But first and foremost...welcome back, and I can't wait to see more cards!!!

[thedemonkiller]

I'm in the mood to put a spoiler up so here is Eric Young's Ability in text and his finisher also in text:

Eric Young- you’re cards titled “Fans Love An Underdog” do no take up a space in your pre-math area. When you’re opponents superstar value is higher then you’re superstar value his non-prematch cards are +*F where * is the difference between you’re and his superstar value. SH: 6 SV:1

Spike Piledriver- trademark finisher- This card is +1D for every card you have in your ring area with stun value, if when successfully played after the card titled “roll out of the ring” you win the game via count out victory. F25 D20

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I'm trying to go for more of a Gimmick orientated abilities as it's one of the things i think some of my cards lack... The Idea with Eric is to make your opponent not want to push there superstar value too high when your going to do it anyway... but i thought about how Eric is always played out to be the downtrodden and unlucky guy... Put against big stars but never doing anything of value until he turned heel... He is always build as the underdog and i wanted to bring that out and make it worth while for him.

Oh i also want to start to bring in some alternative ways to win.

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And Rip i've taken your advice....
after after "A united Kingdom" release
I will be bringing out a Jeff Hardy Remake, a Victoria remake and a Tass remake..

[Ravnos]

Alright...how is Eric's opponent supposed to get fortitude, aside from an RMS move/reversal?  That ability seems like it could lock a LOT of people out of the match..

[njbrock22]

I'm in the mood to put a spoiler up so here is Eric Young's Ability in text and his finisher also in text:

Eric Young- you’re cards titled “Fans Love An Underdog” do no take up a space in your pre-math area. When you’re opponents superstar value is higher then you’re superstar value his non-prematch cards are +*F where * is the difference between you’re and his superstar value. SH: 6 SV:1

Spike Piledriver- trademark finisher- This card is +1D for every card you have in your ring area with stun value, if when successfully played after the card titled “roll out of the ring” you win the game via count out victory. F25 D20

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I'm trying to go for more of a Gimmick orientated abilities as it's one of the things i think some of my cards lack... The Idea with Eric is to make your opponent not want to push there superstar value too high when your going to do it anyway... but i thought about how Eric is always played out to be the downtrodden and unlucky guy... Put against big stars but never doing anything of value until he turned heel... He is always build as the underdog and i wanted to bring that out and make it worth while for him.

Oh i also want to start to bring in some alternative ways to win.

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And Rip i've taken your advice....
after after "A united Kingdom" release
I will be bringing out a Jeff Hardy Remake, a Victoria remake and a Tass remake..

EY
Hand:  6
SSV:  1
Your cards titled Fans Love an Underdog have the added text, your pre match capacity is +1.
While your opponent's SSV is higher than yours, his non-0F, non pre-match cards are +#F.  Where # equals his SSV minus your SSV.

EY's Piledriver, no problems with it; i'd also make the Young Blood later as an alternate finisher.

N.J.

[thedemonkiller]

I'm in the mood to put a spoiler up so here is Eric Young's Ability in text and his finisher also in text:

Eric Young- you’re cards titled “Fans Love An Underdog” do no take up a space in your pre-math area. When you’re opponents superstar value is higher then you’re superstar value his non-prematch cards are +*F where * is the difference between you’re and his superstar value. SH: 6 SV:1

Spike Piledriver- trademark finisher- This card is +1D for every card you have in your ring area with stun value, if when successfully played after the card titled “roll out of the ring” you win the game via count out victory. F25 D20

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I'm trying to go for more of a Gimmick orientated abilities as it's one of the things i think some of my cards lack... The Idea with Eric is to make your opponent not want to push there superstar value too high when your going to do it anyway... but i thought about how Eric is always played out to be the downtrodden and unlucky guy... Put against big stars but never doing anything of value until he turned heel... He is always build as the underdog and i wanted to bring that out and make it worth while for him.

Oh i also want to start to bring in some alternative ways to win.

-----------------

And Rip i've taken your advice....
after after "A united Kingdom" release
I will be bringing out a Jeff Hardy Remake, a Victoria remake and a Tass remake..

EY
Hand:  6
SSV:  1
Your cards titled Fans Love an Underdog have the added text, your pre match capacity is +1.
While your opponent's SSV is higher than yours, his non-0F, non pre-match cards are +#F.  Where # equals his SSV minus your SSV.

EY's Piledriver, no problems with it; i'd also make the Young Blood later as an alternate finisher.

N.J.

I'm going to give him young blood elbow drop as a move as he rarly does the young blood neckbraker now and there are no photos of it..

[Commissioner D2]

I'm in the mood to put a spoiler up so here is Eric Young's Ability in text and his finisher also in text:

Eric Young- you’re cards titled “Fans Love An Underdog” do no take up a space in your pre-math area. When you’re opponents superstar value is higher then you’re superstar value his non-prematch cards are +*F where * is the difference between you’re and his superstar value. SH: 6 SV:1

Spike Piledriver- trademark finisher- This card is +1D for every card you have in your ring area with stun value, if when successfully played after the card titled “roll out of the ring” you win the game via count out victory. F25 D20

-----------
I'm trying to go for more of a Gimmick orientated abilities as it's one of the things i think some of my cards lack... The Idea with Eric is to make your opponent not want to push there superstar value too high when your going to do it anyway... but i thought about how Eric is always played out to be the downtrodden and unlucky guy... Put against big stars but never doing anything of value until he turned heel... He is always build as the underdog and i wanted to bring that out and make it worth while for him.

Oh i also want to start to bring in some alternative ways to win.

-----------------

And Rip i've taken your advice....
after after "A united Kingdom" release
I will be bringing out a Jeff Hardy Remake, a Victoria remake and a Tass remake..

EY
Hand:  6
SSV:  1
Your cards titled Fans Love an Underdog have the added text, your pre match capacity is +1.
While your opponent's SSV is higher than yours, his non-0F, non pre-match cards are +#F.  Where # equals his SSV minus your SSV.

EY's Piledriver, no problems with it; i'd also make the Young Blood later as an alternate finisher.

N.J.

Let's clean that ability up just a little bit more:

Eric Young
SHS: 6
SSV: 1
TNA Ability: Your cards titled "Fans Love An Underdog" do not take up a slot in your Ring area.
When your opponent's SSV is greater than yours, his non-0F, non Pre-match cards are +#F, where # is the difference between your Superstar Values.


That first line of text is crucial.  There is a HUGE difference between "Your cards to not take up a slot during Pre-match" and "have the added text Pre-match capacity +1".  HUGE difference.  Possibly game changing difference.

[Daeva]

To further expand on what D2 is saying, not taking up slots is WAY BETTER than giving extra Capacity.

Though Eric's ability seems really swingy. If I were to design it, I'd just make him a flat +5F regardless of SSV. If you kept the "must be lower" requirement, maybe give him a Storyline so he isn't boned against Eugene and Lawler.

[thedemonkiller]

To further expand on what D2 is saying, not taking up slots is WAY BETTER than giving extra Capacity.

Though Eric's ability seems really swingy. If I were to design it, I'd just make him a flat +5F regardless of SSV. If you kept the "must be lower" requirement, maybe give him a Storyline so he isn't boned against Eugene and Lawler.

Ah see now that's why you spoil the text first...
Hmmmm Daeva i know your a busy man and you can just say no, but would you mind if i sent you all the cards i have worked out in text so far so you could give them the once over with your expert eyes and see how broken they and so on?

[Daeva]

I'm not necessarily saying that his ability is BAD, it's just swingy. It helps a lot more against Evolution and the Main Event Mafia than against, say, The Hurricane or Lashley. Swingy can be ok, it's not my particular cup of tea but it's not bad.

Feel free to send whatever you like, if I get to it, great, if not, I'll let you know.

[Commissioner D2]

Leader Of The Elite
Pre-match Storyline
Your Pre-match Capacity is -1.
If your Superstar Value is greater or equal to your opponent's Superstar Value, his non-0F non-Pre match cards are +5F.
Permanent
Unique

[thedemonkiller]

I'm not necessarily saying that his ability is BAD, it's just swingy. It helps a lot more against Evolution and the Main Event Mafia than against, say, The Hurricane or Lashley. Swingy can be ok, it's not my particular cup of tea but it's not bad.

Feel free to send whatever you like, if I get to it, great, if not, I'll let you know.

Lovely! Daeva has checked though it all (thanks again) and the new wave will be up shortly (even though i still have most of the text for the past sets to work out....)

[thedemonkiller]

another update....

The next 4 sets are:
Eric Young
Suicide
The Pope
Amazing red
(with card support for previous guys and the new WWE guys)

(Prize support the Band and World Elite)
                   ------------------ The British Are Coming----------------

Desmonde Wolfe
The British Invasion

           ------------------ The Most Decorated Man In TNA Histroy------------
A J Style remake

                ------------------------- Knocked Out------------------------
Daffney
Taylor Wilde
ODB

(prize support Val Venis and Cody Deaner)

                ---------------- The Monday Night Worriors----------------
Jeff hardy remake
Tazz remake
Victoria remake

(prize support Rave remake, Orlando jordon)

Opnions?

[njbrock22]

i'd say just start posting up the text and lets get this on; also its Jordan not Jordon

N.J.

[thedemonkiller]

Text Spoilers for each of the Superstars abilities:

The Pope- your Assaults are -1F for every Assault in your Ring area and your Strikes are +1D for every Strike in your ring area. You may pack any card with the Elijah Burrke logo but do not count as that superstar. Your opponents card titled “Devine Intervention” has blank text. SH: 5 SV: 4

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Amazing Red- at the start of each of your turns your opponent must discard one random card from his hand. Your set up cards are considered multi until successfully played. You may pack the card titled “Too Fast For You”  and it is not branded. Your high risk maneuvers have no brands. SH: 6 SV: 3

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Suicide- Whenever you would be forced to reveal your hand by your opponent they instead reveal there hand, if your opponent forces you discard a card after revealing your hand, you must discard random cards from your hand instead. You may pack any 2 cards with the Kaz or Christopher Daniel logo on but do not count as those superstars. You may pack the card titled “Masked Vengeance” and the card titled “Power of Darkness” You start the game. SH: 8 SV:2

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Eric Young- Your cards titled "Fans Love An Underdog" do not take up a slot in your Ring area.When your opponent's SSV is greater than yours, his non-0F, non Pre-match cards are +#F, where # is the difference between your Superstar Values. SH: 6 SV:1

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[thedemonkiller]

AND I'M FINALLY BACK...

First up

He is amazing.. so say Don west (and as a special treat will be making his Insane brown bag offer as a TK card soon)













(you can't download these yet guys as i've not added the copyright)

[thedemonkiller]

today's star

Elijah Burkke

(with a card missing as i forgot to save it)

[njbrock22]

Burke's finisher should be the D.D.E.(D'angelo Dinero Express), and on Pimp Slap... it references Coronation is at -3F... uh Coronation is already 0F unless you meant this to counter any fortitude plunging effects, maybe make it a damage boost?

add to infra-red's action side that it deals no damage.  Same to Seing Red, maybe change the name to another one of his moves like Red Eye unless you plan that for a later set, keep em coming.

N.J.

[Anthony Lurty]

Burke's finisher should be the D.D.E.(D'angelo Dinero Express), and on Pimp Slap... it references Coronation is at -3F... uh Coronation is already 0F unless you meant this to counter any fortitude plunging effects, maybe make it a damage boost?

add to infra-red's action side that it deals no damage.  Same to Seing Red, maybe change the name to another one of his moves like Red Eye unless you plan that for a later set, keep em coming.

N.J.

Its a known rule that actions discarded or shuffled in don't deal damage.

[njbrock22]

well thanks for updating me on that lurty... havent played a competitive game since... Royal Rumble... so... yeah...

N.J.

[Commissioner D2]

Is "That's Pimpin" supposed to have Stun?  Also, I'd make it RFG instead of going to the Ringside.

"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win." - Sun-Tzu