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« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2009, 03:48:33 PM »

Sheamus and Cena can continue their feud after TLC.

Cena: Sheamus, at One-on-One on Sunday, I can't wait to get my hands on you. There'll be no special stipulations.

Cole: Fans, tune in next month for WWE Presents One-On-One PPV. All the PPV matches will include one fall.

King: Don't forget the next PPV. WWE Presents Tag PPV.

Sheamus is simply filler until the Road to Wrestlemania. They're going to test the waters, nothing more. He's a fresh face, but they're not even going to consider giving him the title.
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« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2009, 04:08:07 PM »

I was really expecting more from the battle royal and aftermath.

 - I really thought we'd finally get the Teddy turn we're waiting for, especially since the preview for the movie was shown earlier in the broadcast.

 - I was halfway expecting Orton to blindside Sheamus and sign the contract instead.

 - When Jesse was doing his mini turn, I expected him to announce that he had decided to turn the PPV match into a 3-way, adding Orton.
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« Reply #27 on: November 24, 2009, 04:12:37 PM »

I really dont see there being a Cena/Sheamus feud. I think like you said is just a test match (no pun intended) to see what Sheamus can and cannot do against a star like Cena. I aint saying this is going to be a squash match but look for foul play if Sheamus is going to win which is HIGHLY unlikely.

I do agree HBK was probally just being HBK when he said something about a chair match at TLC. I wonder who the Ladder match will involve. MitB takes place at WM so it cant be that maybe it'll be Morrison vs Dolph or Orton vs Kofi since I dont see Miz putting his title on the line in a Ladder match.

I mean what we have DX vs JeriShow in a TLC match for the Tag Titles, Cena vs Sheamus in a table match for the WWE Titlew so we need a Ladder match and a Chair match if they are going to keep up with the whole Tables, Ladders and Chairs theme of the PPV.
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« Reply #28 on: November 24, 2009, 04:42:22 PM »

it would never ever ever ever happen in a bajillino years but melina vs Maryse in a ladder match Cheesy.
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« Reply #29 on: November 24, 2009, 05:17:55 PM »

No way Cena is going to lose to a relatively new guy with no fans support. That's too big of an insult for the face of WWE. Vince will not allow that.

Vince has done way worse to the "face of WWE". It still could happen, seems unlikely though.

As for O-Tron interfering, that would set up heel vs heel, and would put the focus more on Cena vs O-Tron than the Champ Shaemus (Which I wouldn't put past Vince either, he's done some similar bad business moves). If O-Tron interferes I suspect Cena will still somehow win, but it'll help set-up a O-Tron Cena match.
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« Reply #30 on: November 24, 2009, 05:38:21 PM »

Shemus was a very good face in FCW so its only a matter of time.  WWE could have delayed Dibiase's turn and instead set it to Shemus.  Orton can interfere and cost Cena the title, but when Orton comes to collect Shemus tells him to go shoooove it his O-hole and we get Orton shemus at Rumble, cause lets see how the crowd reacts to shemus, with everyone always hating on Cena will they cheer Shemus
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« Reply #31 on: November 24, 2009, 07:00:48 PM »

I could see Kane/Batista in a chair match, where they just beat each other to a pulp!
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« Reply #32 on: November 24, 2009, 07:42:42 PM »

Chair on a pole match anyone?


That's the most viable option I could see as a "chair match".
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« Reply #33 on: November 24, 2009, 07:48:14 PM »

its been done before, its just chairs are the only legal foreign object and probably be like 5-10 of them all over the place
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« Reply #34 on: November 24, 2009, 08:31:18 PM »

Chair on a pole match anyone?


That's the most viable option I could see as a "chair match".

In the WWE yeah it would probally be the only way it could happen outside of it being legal like Snitsky/Kane at Taboo Tuesday a few years back with the chain.

The other way would be to have different types of chairs like flaming, barbwire, glass and such attached to them but this the WWE and they are "family friendly" so we probally wont see a plain ol' chair match because it would be the highest potential way to bust someone open.

I never seen Sheamus outside of the WWE so I didnt know he played a face at sometime and I really dont see how he could do a 180 within 2 weeks of powerbombing Noble into "retirement" and beating Finlay the way he did but NEVER SAY NEVER in the WWE.
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« Reply #35 on: November 25, 2009, 04:07:21 AM »

This match is the same thing WWE did with John Cena six years ago. Cena faced off with Lesnar at Backlash. The two of them had a competitive match and all the anti-Lesnar promos bumped Cena from a relatively obscure mid card heel into the solid upper mid card to fringe main event scene almost immediately. By the end of that year he was dominating the US title scene and then went on to feud with JBL and the rest is history. I see the same thing going for Sheamus. I believe he will lose this match, but it'll elevate him to a level where he can legitimately feud with top guys. I wouldn't be surprised to see him face Triple H at Wrestlemania since Sheamus is kind of his pet project.
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« Reply #36 on: November 25, 2009, 08:45:38 AM »

Okay trusting Sheamus with a spot at WM with HHH is going a bit too fast. I aint saying it isnt a possibility but I can Sheamus going after the mid-card belt (US/IC Title) before being jumped to a spot with HHH or a WWE/WH Title reign.

I do agree that Sheamus will lose at TLC but push him up to a solid if needed ME wrestler like what they tried with Morrison when Jeff took his leave to settle the court thing.

For HHH I see a possible final DX Match or HHH facing HBK at WM in a "Super Fight" type match where both are still face but they want to try and best each other or something like that kinda like what they did with Taker/HBK last year.
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« Reply #37 on: November 25, 2009, 09:13:33 AM »

WWE Title - Tables match
World Title Match - Ladder Match
Tag title match - TLC match

some other random match - Chairs are legal match (or no specified chair match)
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« Reply #38 on: November 25, 2009, 09:15:04 AM »

WWE Title - Tables match
World Title Match - Ladder Match
Tag title match - TLC match

some other random match - Chairs are legal match (or no specified chair match)

The ECW title match is the ladder match, if you watched ECW, it's Christian defending against Shelton
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« Reply #39 on: November 25, 2009, 11:54:38 AM »

Christian/Benjamin is the best match on the card so far.

Batista/Taker is gonna suck if its a ladder match since neither man has been in more then 1 ladder match...i dont even think Batista has been in a ladder match ever.

Cena/Sheamus will surprize the crap out of me if it is any good but knowing all the ways it could go right and all the ways it could go wrong the bad out weight the good so far.

DX/Jeri-Show might be a good match but you'll see HBK & Jericho doing most of the spots in that match if it involves a ladder since I dont see a 7'0" 500lbs guy climbing a ladder without something bad happening.

The only "chair match" I see taking place will involve ECW or the IC Title with Dolph & Morrison in it and nobody else unless they pull a surprize out of Miz and have him involved in it.

...oh wait James vs McCool  OR Melina vs Alicia Fox in a chair match which will involve most of us leaving our chair during the match to get something to drink or atleast I would if I was to order the PPV.
so far not too impressed.
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« Reply #40 on: November 25, 2009, 12:03:01 PM »

batista taker is the chair match.

Only the 3 belts and the tag titles are stipulated
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« Reply #41 on: November 25, 2009, 01:15:23 PM »

the Chair Match will consist of a gigantic comfy armchair situated in the middle of the ring. Im talking like 25 feet high here and 40 feet wide, i mean this chair is freaking huge.

The competitors enter the ring, and stare at the chair, cowering in its giganticousity (and its curiously alluring plushy look)

The Bell rings, and the wrestlers (who ever the hells gonna be in this match), look at each other, wondering what in the hell they are supposed to do. Somewhere in the crowd, a "Cena Sucks" chant starts.

As the staredown contiunes, the ring announcer makes his presence felt, alerting the audience and competitors that he will now explain rules to this "Chair Match" (The "Cena Sucks" chant has by now died down in favor of a "BOOORING" chant)

The announcer says that to be named the victor in this match, you must climb to the top of the chair, level by level, until you reach the head rest at the top. There, the wrestlers will find a normal sized recliner, a six pack of beer, and a tv with old WCW Halloween Havoc pay per views on. The first one to reach the top of the chair, recline in the recliner, sip on a beer and then spit it out in amazement when the Black Scorpion appears on the tv set will be named the winner.

Both wrestlers, clearly confused and somewhat annoyed at the ridicilousness of this match, flip off the ring announcer and begin to exit the ring.........

When all of a sudden they both pull a fast one and jump back in, and the race to the top of the chair has begun.

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« Reply #42 on: November 25, 2009, 01:26:50 PM »

...and that scenario is the ONLY way I'd find anything remotely interesting about yet another Taker/Batista match, haha.

Damn, how bad does the WWE Main Event scene suck now?

Raw: Cena, Orton, DX.  Only 1 credible heel threat to the title
Smackdown: Taker, Dave.  Oh, and Jericho.

Jesse Ventura got it right when he said on Raw that he was tired of seeing the same names at the top.  I love shoot comments that aren't supposed to be shoot comments.  Wink  But with Vince dissing Punk out of the main event picture a couple weeks back, when he turned down a title shot request with "No, and come on, how many chances do you get?"   Shocked   He's clearly back in the mid-card.  (Guess its his fault no one wanted to see Orton/Cena #373 or the marketing for Summerslam looked ridiculous, lol)

The obvious DX/JeriShow feud is falling apart with Big Show out for surgery, he'll probably have limited (if any) time in the match.  Orton/Kofi will last for a while as they struggle to make new 'name' talent, which means Cena/Sheamus wll probably last until Royal Rumble.  Taker/Batista (ugh) is the ONLY credible main event feud on Smackdown, with Punk, Morrison, and Kane all shown to be not remotely good enough.. they put the latter 2 as lower-tier than Punk, then made it crystal clear Punk couldn't begin to compete with Taker, even with shenanigans.

And after two PPVs in a row where the set-up felt rushed and thrown together at the last minute, I'm wondering if anyone in the company has any concept of the word 'foresight'....

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« Reply #43 on: November 25, 2009, 03:12:34 PM »

Just think if Jericho had stayed out of the business, for good or just for a longer time.  Where would they be then?
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« Reply #44 on: November 25, 2009, 04:34:40 PM »

You know, I don't get you guys sometimes. I thought people would be super-excited that Sheamus and Kofi are banging on the door to the Main Event scene. All y'all do is complain that WWE has no good main event scene, and now that they do something COMPLETELY unexpected (at least, I was totally surprised) and bring Sheamus up to feud you STILL aren't pleased.
What do you want to see them do, exactly?

Personally, I'm very happy to see feuds involving Kofi and Sheamus. I can't wait to see what he's able to do versus Cena.
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« Reply #45 on: November 25, 2009, 04:44:43 PM »

Well I already said Kofi is now gonna win either the Royal Rumble, the raw rumble or win the Elimination Chamber and wrestlemania will be Kofi vs Orton for the title
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« Reply #46 on: November 25, 2009, 04:47:18 PM »

Right, but the problem is they should have been doing this for at LEAST a year or two.  Building guys past the 2nd-tier belt status (U.S. or I.C.)  Sheamus hasn't really done anything that you can point to, besides 'retiring' Jamie Noble and being the latest guy to slap around Jerry Lawler.  Smiley  Kofi has at least held the I/C, U.S., and Raw Tag Titles, sure, and he actually seems like a more credible threat than Sheamus.

WWF/E has always tried to hotshot the latest 'monster' heel, though, I remember when Hercules was suddenly a threat to Hogan, but we all knew Hercules wasn't winning the title.  But yes, you're right, it was something different.  The only issue is, no one believes that Sheamus has a chance of winning the title, even with the Table stip.. at BEST, they might pull a Punk, do a surprise switch, and have Cena win it right back at Rumble (or on Raw before then).

But what will they do 2 months from now?  Look at the Miz, remember when he was after Cena for like.. a minute?  And he actually got to the main event?  (Actually, the Orton/HHH title match was the main event if memory serves)  And where is he now?  Toiling in the mid-card, carrying the U.S. Title but doing little of note otherwise.

It's the 'flash in the pan' thing WWE remembers to do, a half-hearted attempt to 'bring new blood' in.  But the moment things don't work out, they drop it and go right back to the same ol' same ol', like giving the title back to Taker after having an excellent summer feud with Punk and Hardy (because Summerslam had a low buy rate, reportedly).

I fully expect that we'll have another joyful moment in 6 months when they throw another name in the hat, and I also expect we'll point to Sheamus, who MIGHT be the second-tier champ on his show, but will probably be having matches that don't mean much, without a feud, and mostly forgotten.

I would LOVE to be wrong about this, but after a while I just can't get excited about the WWE without feeling like Charlie Brown trying to finally kick that football... Wink

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« Reply #47 on: November 25, 2009, 05:49:34 PM »

Creed, I could agree more. I hope everything that is said on here is not going to happen but knowing the WWE like all of us know for the past 6+ years it is always the same revolving door of champions and main events.

I'd love to see Kofi or Sheamus pull a "jeff" and win the title and headline a few PPVs out of the blue to send some fresh blood into the scene and do a good job at it because after looking up previous matches of Sheamus I am actually impressed with his ability but knowing the WWE IF they do win and have a title reign it'll probally die and fizzle out before it has a chance to get going.

The problem with the wrestling scene now is that fans arent used to seeing a long term champion like Hogan, Bruno, Moolah and Flair (all champions for more then 4 years) and to be honest if done right we could see a long term champion out of some of the new blood or current people in the title scene but once again knowing the WWE it'll last a brief cycle then go back to rinsing and repeating the same champions.

Look at JBL who held it for 9 months or something like that people were getting sick of him by month 4 because he was pushed in most peoples eyes way too fast but I personally said alot of negative things about JBL's reign but deep down inside as a fan of wrestling I was happy to see a longer term champion.
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« Reply #48 on: November 26, 2009, 10:54:42 AM »

I like the idea of a long-term champ, but the WWE creative team doesn't have enough talent/ambition to pull it off. Also when we had those multi-year champs, fans didn't see the champ wrestle on a weekly show plus a PPV each month.

I'd like to Kofi and Morrison be elevated to main eventers, Sheamus needs to be built up more solidly. Also I hope Jericho loses the tag title so he can be a dominate heel champ on Smackdown.
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« Reply #49 on: November 26, 2009, 12:41:47 PM »

Yeah atleast we dont have 2-3 PPVs a month anymore like we did a few years back (1 RAW, 1 SD and at times 1 ECW) so are atleats down to 12 PPVs a year.

Its now to the point of how many notches can I have in my belt for title reigns then how long I can hold it which is why we have WAY too many 5-6 time champions unlike in the old WWF when we saw very few people who had more then 2-3 time championship reigns and if they did have more then that they were in the company or buisness for more then 10 years.

HHH has what 12-13 reigns but he has been in the ME spotlight for almost 12 years but people like Cena, Edge and Orton have been in the scene for at tops 5 years and they already have 6-7 reigns as champ and you'll continue to see this because like I said before it is more of a how many times then a how long of time thing when it comes to championship belts.

They also need to bring back the IC/US title rule where your the automatic #1 contender if you hold those belt like it was in the old days but then you'll see the revolving door of champions in that title scene as well.
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