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Author Topic: Truth to the old saying it's not who you know its who you ...  (Read 663 times)
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« on: November 23, 2009, 09:39:57 AM »

Michelle McCool is dating/sleeping with the Undertaker.  For this reason she is a champion and she get away with so much that should not be.  She is a horrible wrestler but 80% of the Divas in the WWE are.  She came out and said in an interview that she took A.J.Styles finishing move and uses it as her own.  Now her Ring entrance attire is mocking him.  A.J. Styles is by far one of the greatest wrestlers not working for the evil empire.  I think that Vince should have said something to her about the whole gimmick stealing thing, but Vince himself does not care.  To him TNA is not a threat to the WWE.  Only time will tell if they can compete on that level. 

There is a proposal set forth by Dixie Carter and Eric Bischoff to do a Monday night TNA show.  I for one would watch that live and tape Raw.  Raw is the same old same old.  TNA is heading to the old WCW days in my opinion.   I don't believe that even the Great Hulk Hogan could of all things give TNA a push to compete with the Evil Empire know as WWE.  They tried to get over with Sting and it did not push them over the edge.  ROH had wrestler that were supposed to go to Vince but changed there mind and signed with TNA.  I believe this is a good move, because they have a ton of talent.  they could run 2 shows and be fine.

This entire rant was my opinion and mine alone.  if you agree with me cool and thanks.  If not please feel free to blast my comments. I welcome all comments and everything.

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« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2009, 09:57:02 AM »

I do have to agree with the top part about the whole michelle mccool stealing  styles gimmick I mean she is a horrible wrestler and feels the only way to even try to get over is by stealing a good wrestlers finisher/gimmick, but there is one part that is contradictory, because everyone in wrestling steals something from one person from one time or another it just so happens this time everyone realizes it on a bigger stage.'

As far as TNA becoming a better product, it is on the rise again for them to become better now, they were in a slump for sometime and talks were wondering if TNA would even make it to December.  But we were all wrong, I am glad that Nigel and Danielson signed with TNA instead of WWE.  WWE would have killed both nigel and danielson, the only one who had a shot at even getting over was Danielson and that is because he trained at Shawn Michaels school.  Like the posting reads, its not what you know but who you know.
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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2009, 11:43:37 AM »

News flash...Danielson did sign with WWE.

http://www.wrestleview.com/news2009/1258839454.php?style=dark

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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2009, 11:00:10 AM »

I wouldn't be surprised if Vince was encouraging McCool to steal Styles 'gimmick'. I actually think the finisher sucks.

As for TNA be competition for WWE, I don't think that'll ever happen. TNA is barely above ECW imho. Lance Storm has a few good articles explaining the problems with TNA. I don't think Hulk Hogan will help TNA much. There is potential there, but Hogan would have to put over Samoa Joe and Style for it to work and I doubt Hogan will put over Sting, Angle etc.

WWE does have competition though, with other forms of entertainment though.
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« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2010, 10:31:01 PM »

Michelle McCool is dating/sleeping with the Undertaker.  For this reason she is a champion and she get away with so much that should not be.  She is a horrible wrestler but 80% of the Divas in the WWE are.  She came out and said in an interview that she took A.J.Styles finishing move and uses it as her own.  Now her Ring entrance attire is mocking him.  A.J. Styles is by far one of the greatest wrestlers not working for the evil empire.  I think that Vince should have said something to her about the whole gimmick stealing thing, but Vince himself does not care.  To him TNA is not a threat to the WWE.  Only time will tell if they can compete on that level. 

There is a proposal set forth by Dixie Carter and Eric Bischoff to do a Monday night TNA show.  I for one would watch that live and tape Raw.  Raw is the same old same old.  TNA is heading to the old WCW days in my opinion.   I don't believe that even the Great Hulk Hogan could of all things give TNA a push to compete with the Evil Empire know as WWE.  They tried to get over with Sting and it did not push them over the edge.  ROH had wrestler that were supposed to go to Vince but changed there mind and signed with TNA.  I believe this is a good move, because they have a ton of talent.  they could run 2 shows and be fine.

This entire rant was my opinion and mine alone.  if you agree with me cool and thanks.  If not please feel free to blast my comments. I welcome all comments and everything.

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While I'm not McCool fan, I don't really think you have anything on the stealing AJ's gimmick.  Maria and Christian have been doing the hood thing for a while as well, so she's not the first person to do it on WWE.  As far as the Styles clash theft, didn't vic grimes do that move before AJ?  There are very few original moves left (See Diamond Cutter/RKO/Twist of Fate, etc.).  While I admit both the hood and the finisher together is pretty coincidental, I can't imagine Michelle watching TNA and deciding to just steal the whole thing....seems weird to me.

Besides that, how many people have stolen from WWE?  Not even counting the old WCW travesties, Shark Boy and Lethal come to mind (though, to be fair, Savage wasn't a WWE guy at the time that Lethal took that persona).  One could argue the Motor City Machine Guns as nothing more than a modernized Hardy Boyz/3-Count hybrind (It would be a weird argument, but I can see it).  Joe was pretty much a more talented Goldberg for part of his TNA career.  I see where your coming from, and I love AJ, but theres very little originality in wrestling...just the way it is.
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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2010, 01:03:40 AM »

True.  you make valid points.  My argument was that McCool was interviewed and flat out said.  I watched TNA and saw AJ Styles.  I see my self as a female AJ so why not use his style.  It works for me too.  that was what I was saying.  As for the WCW WWE rip off on TNA.  Sharkboy sucked.  Black Machismo was a good angle since he sounds more like Macho man than Randy Savage does now.  Again this is my opinion thanks for reading though.
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2010, 02:21:30 AM »

And citing Diamond Cutter = RKO

Yep, it does. But DDP actually said in an interview that as he was finishing up with the WWE he gifted it to Orton and told him to make it his own.

So slight difference between outright gimmick Thievery, and the torch being passed from one wrestler to the next.

 
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2010, 02:25:47 AM »

I thought it was super lame sauce that EVERYBODY started doing the Spear when Rhyno was still in WWE. Made the Gore not special anymore. Sad
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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2010, 02:49:07 AM »

I thought it was super lame sauce that EVERYBODY started doing the Spear when Rhyno was still in WWE. Made the Gore not special anymore. Sad

I beg to differ. An ordinary spear is to Rhyno's Gore as a go-kart is to a Sherman tank. When Edge spears somebody, it looks like it hurts a bit, but when Rhyno does it, it looks like he's folded the guy in half.

I will agree with the sentiment that the Styles Clash is one of the dumbest finishers ever.
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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2010, 04:29:15 AM »

I thought it was super lame sauce that EVERYBODY started doing the Spear when Rhyno was still in WWE. Made the Gore not special anymore. Sad

I beg to differ. An ordinary spear is to Rhyno's Gore as a go-kart is to a Sherman tank. When Edge spears somebody, it looks like it hurts a bit, but when Rhyno does it, it looks like he's folded the guy in half.

I will agree with the sentiment that the Styles Clash is one of the dumbest finishers ever.

I fully agree with you sir...it just made it less special. The Gore def looked a million times cooler...it'd be like people being allowed to use the boston crab and you being a Jericho mark...just not "fair". I apologize if I'm not making my point clear.
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