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[piperspitt]

I think I read that John Morrison is gone now too.

[CreedP]

Oh, he's been gone for a while.  When Miz took him out last fall, that was WWE 'writing him out'. 

CREED

[maskedllama]

I am probably reading too much into the flavor text, but since Zach Ryder and Miz have different "WWE" symbols, are they considered "non-WWE" superstars?  Much like someone who has the NWO logo on his superstar card is considered an NWO superstar, does the inverted WWE logo make Miz a ....."Miz" Superstar? 

Of course, I don't think that there are any cards that affect a "non-WWE" superstar , so its probably a pointless question to ask. 

[CreedP]

We hadn't really thought about it, but since we don't reference a 'non-WWE Superstar' (which could create problems anyway if you're using an old Triple H or Undertaker Superstar card), it shouldn't be an issue.

So far we specify something we do want to hit, like 'Reverse a WCW Card' for example, thus preventing any such issue.

Granted, there IS an effect in the set that targets WWE cards, so I'd say Ryder has an immunity to it..

CREED

[Drywall]

Man, reading about Daniel Puder is depressing. Feels like he threw a decent career away by being a huge jerk.

And the less I remember about Linda Miles and her stint with the Bashams, the better. *shudder*

[wingsbacklash]

Maven, RYBACK, Brodus Clay, Kaitlyn, A.J., Maxine, Ashley,Layla and e and c remake sould all be done beacuse all these people have talent and was over looked (some people in there i no havent) but still i no that some have been done in this set (laycool and ryback or skip) but i think it would be nice to have more divas in the game, and defo more legends

and the reason i said about a e and c remake is because i think that all of them should have a remake all the old tag teams as far as im aware no tag team has ever had a remake? dont know if this is true or not?

[Daeva]

Maven had talent?

Some of those people are on the books for later Virtual sets. Layla would be a cinch with all of her Lay-Cool stuff.

[Toxic]

by the way will the set have support cards for older superstars from premiere to GAB?

[piperspitt]

As needed, I can't wait to finally see Trish Stratus' new card. Much, much needed.

[CreedP]

Some of the 'classic' superstars have support, yes, Trish Stratus especially. 

Brodus, Ryback and A.J. are definite interests for future development.  Maxine and Maven haven't done nearly enough to warrant inclusion in a Virtual set (hint: get off NXT, Maxine!  lol)

As mentioned, Layla's a strong possibility as well, especially with cards in Lay-Cool.

An Edge & Christian remake would be interesting... but I will spoil that they get at least one card in Virtual 5.  Though we have another Tag Team 'remake' in the set, of sorts... 

CREED

[Rawksteady]

Maxine and Maven haven't done nearly enough to warrant inclusion in a Virtual set (hint: get off NXT, Maxine!  lol)

Maxine and Johnny Curtis on NXT as professional wrestling's Team Rocket, has been more entertaining then most of the stuff on the main roster.

[CreedP]

Probably so - but if they aren't ready for 'prime time' yet, they aren't quite ready for Raw Deal... lol

You know, you'd think with the roster being so thin right now, they'd be calling up guys like Curtis, Maxine... where the heck did Percy Watson go, I thought he had a great gimmick in NXT S2!  lol  Ah well...

CREED

[superradjoe]

I wanna know where my boy Derrick Bateman went, he was comedy gold SUBMISSION WRESTLING!!!!

[Drywall]

Maven had talent?

Some of those people are on the books for later Virtual sets. Layla would be a cinch with all of her Lay-Cool stuff.

In his last few months on the Roster, especially as a heel, Maven was awesome. (In my opinion). Sad that it took so long for him to get there.

[P_Barney]

As needed, I can't wait to finally see Trish Stratus' new card. Much, much needed.

Some of the 'classic' superstars have support, yes, Trish Stratus especially. 

CREED

I don't think my BOTY deck needs any more help but I look forward to checking out her new card!

[Daeva]

Babe of the Year is pretty good, but Trish got left in the dust. Can't pack big moves, isn't a Diva, no Set-ups, and her ability makes her more open to Volley This. She needs some love.

[superradjoe]

I can't even imagine what it will take to make Trish competitive... all 3 stratuspheres in the ring in prematch and no way to counter them? lol

[JDub]

What do people consider competitive? I had a BASH Trish deck that did pretty well.

[Turd Ferguson]

What do people consider competitive? I had a BASH Trish deck that did pretty well.

I'm curious how to get a BASH deck to work without big moves or multis.

[Daeva]

BASH without Multis and big moves? That's pretty easy, actually. Try to find my Vince McMahon deck from Gen Con '07, the biggest move in the deck aside from Vinny Mac Attack is 9D.

I know that Vince is a totally different animal from Trish, but BASH does not have to equal giant Multi moves. All Trish would have to do is get from 3 to 6 (Stratusfaction Bulldog does a really good job of this) and then she can start unloading with Shoot Actions and, later, Shane O'Mac Delivers the BASH to get Fortitude and start killing the opponent.

Part of the point is that everything that Trish can do with this build, Vince does better. It's probably one of the better ways to play Trish at-present, though, no doubt about it. We want to give her some broader appeal besides "play toothless BASH Action spam or die".

[Rebort]

It's like BASH Christy with Double Crossed the Boss. You don't need moves when you start the game with 4-6 Fort + hard to reverse girly moves and damage actions.

[CRASHER]

BASH Kane is pretty good too since he gets to all of his pain reversals out of the box....but we're drifting here.....

[Turd Ferguson]

It's like BASH Christy with Double Crossed the Boss. You don't need moves when you start the game with 4-6 Fort + hard to reverse girly moves and damage actions.

Trish doesn't get a lot of the girly moves though because she's not considered a Diva.

[Daeva]

She only misses out on Modified Clutch and Divas Overload!, Girly Punch and Girly Grab both require female, not Diva. (Girly Slap also requires female, not Diva, but it's not really worth considering since it gets reversed by everything.)

[piperspitt]

I'm quoting you and I'm going to reverse it with Dynamic Finisher

Last night I lay in bed looking up at the stars in the sky and I thought to myself, "Where the heck is the ceiling?