Best Wrestlemania post attitude era?

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[piperspitt]

What's your favorite Wrestlemania, match, moment from the Wrestlemanias in the 20's? Many have seemed disappointing, will they become better as we look back on them?

[JDub]

To me WM 21 was the last one that I looked forward to and really felt like a WM to me. There have been some good ones since and some good matches but overall it's been downhill since then IMO. Some of my favorite matches are HBK vs Flair, HBK vs Taker 1, and the first MitB.

WM 23 (one of the two I have been two  lucky me) was easily the worst. What a steaming pile of dung that was.

[Homeless]

favorite match of all time: angle vs hbk at wrestlemania 21.

i'm actually looking forward to 28. the rhodes/big show feud has been enjoyable, mainly because rhodes is great at being an absolute dick. plus there are two high emotion matches with hhh/taker and rock/cena. most of the crowd's vocal chords will be shot by the end of the night. and punk/jericho will probably give angle/hbk a run for its money as a goat match.

[The Softcore Legend]

WM 25?

The one where HBK and Undertaker matched up for the first time.  It was also the year my daughter was born, on Wrestlemania, so I didn't get to see it live.  I saw it later on DVD and thought that it was the best wrestlemania since 17 and the one where the Rock took on Hogan.

I think this Cena vs. Rock match might be better than we think this year...

[piperspitt]

I think 27 was the worst, although 25 was bad too.
Goldberg and Lesnar could have been great but wrecked xx.
I liked 22 the best, 23 was ok other than the billionaire battle.
I liked Flair vs Michaels,  Foley vs Edge, and Angle vs Guerrero best in this time period.

[Wallemania4life]

wrestlemania 20 for this reason and alone was made it awesome:

http://youtu.be/zBPa-Htj2b8

And

Wrestlemania 21 For this reason:

http://youtu.be/tR4oqVcnhFE

[piperspitt]

I loved Kane's entrance at XX. I had forgotten about Hussan meeting Hogan. Very good choices.

[JDub]

I think 27 was the worst, although 25 was bad too.
Goldberg and Lesnar could have been great but wrecked xx.
I liked 22 the best, 23 was ok other than the billionaire battle.
I liked Flair vs Michaels,  Foley vs Edge, and Angle vs Guerrero best in this time period.

27 wasn't bad, the problem I had with it was that they basically made it feel like a giant set up to this years WM. Kind of devalued it IMO because it seemed like they already moved on to 28 before 27 even happened.

[piperspitt]

It just felt like an episode of Raw instead of like a big event. Snooki and Michael Cole wrestled in 25% of the card. A six and eight man tag match plus Miz in the main event just didn't do it for me. At least Cena lost.

[y2zipper]

I was in the tenth row for HBK vs. Angle, so my bias leans me towards Wrestlemania 21.

Cena vs. Rock will generate a TON of buzz just like Rock/Hogan did, even if it's only because the crowd will be super-pissed when Cena wins.

[CreedP]

Flat out no questions asked.  WM 22 in Chicago.  Just due to finally seeing one in person. 

I can still see our group during Shawn's entrance, when he poses on the corner turnbuckle on the left side of the screen...  just look for Barron standing in the aisle clapping, one row down and 3-4 seats over. 

CREED

[piperspitt]

I still love xix since it was my first, so I know how you feel. I really enjoyed 22 other than Taker vs Henry. I loved Mickie James winning the title!

[CreedP]

Yeah, heh, Daeva & I went to check out T-shirts during the Casket Match.. but the Mickie/Trish match was redhot awesome, so was MITB and the hardcore match.  Triple H tapping out was kind of a letdown but expected.

The crowd was LOUD and VERY vocal, heh, so that made the show even better.  High points including the fans turning on Trish and cheering for Mickie James (especially after the 'lick' haha), and the two separate, very distinct 'F*** YOU CENA!' chants, heh.

CREED

[HalfBadger]

I think 27 was the worst, although 25 was bad too.
Goldberg and Lesnar could have been great but wrecked xx.
I liked 22 the best, 23 was ok other than the billionaire battle.
I liked Flair vs Michaels,  Foley vs Edge, and Angle vs Guerrero best in this time period.

27 wasn't bad, the problem I had with it was that they basically made it feel like a giant set up to this years WM. Kind of devalued it IMO because it seemed like they already moved on to 28 before 27 even happened.

My rebuttal as why WM 27 sucked/was wrestling crap...

http://www.wrestlecrap.com/newinduction1.html

or depending on when you click the link http://www.wrestlecrap.com/newinductions.html under "How Can A WrestleMania with The Rock Suck?"...

One of my favorite moments was Kane body slamming Khali. As well as Kane choke slamming O-tron from the turnbuckle.

and anything involving Jericho, Christian and Punk.

For me during the first HBK vs Taker at Mania, when HBK kicked out I think a second Tombstone or finisher I totally stop suspending believe in the match and felt more like an outside observer. Not only couldn't I get back into the match, but never really got into Taker vs HBK II, Taker vs HHH II nor Taker vs HHH III. They all seemed fake to me and I'm now totally turned me off seeing Taker at WM.

The whole aura about being undefeated at WM sounded lame to me when they started hyping it when Taker made 10-0. To tie this into the topic somewhat, it's actually more of a hype for Mania than Taker. Wrestlemania moments mean something more, when the announcers don't talking about Wrestlemania moments every 5 seconds. It cheapens to me, especially since most Wrestlemanias don't live up to the hype. Lance Storm recently has been doing reviews of each Wrestlemania (as he was converting them to DVD from VHS and later just watching the DVDs) and most of them only had a couple good matches/moments if that.

[teamzissou]

WM 28 may be my fav, but that also might be because it's the first I ever attended. Homeless was right about our vocal chords being shot by the end. I didn't shut up threw the whole show. What a freak'n blessing that Rock won. That moment made the whole night very special.

PS - I feel, overall, WM 21 was very solid too. Hogan's appearance made me jump up and down like a little kid.

[piperspitt]

I think Wrestlemanias may get a little better if Undertaker is gone. WWE can then go back to adding some more surprise to the event. When I was younger, and pre-Internet spoilers. The match winners were a much bigger deal. It would sure be nice to go back to a time when the whole card seemed special and Wrestlemania was about more than a few highlight spots.

[gregburbidge]

I liked 27, but only because I went (I'm in Atlanta). The 10 people in the row in front of me all dressed like 80s wrestlers. Sgt Slaugter kept saluting all of us, and Andre wore one strap tights. Pretty awesome.

[HalfBadger]

I think Wrestlemanias may get a little better if Undertaker is gone. WWE can then go back to adding some more surprise to the event. When I was younger, and pre-Internet spoilers. The match winners were a much bigger deal. It would sure be nice to go back to a time when the whole card seemed special and Wrestlemania was about more than a few highlight spots.

Just curious, but what time/era was this? I believe the first 7 were mainly about Hogan in the main event (or in WM 4 a rematch with Andre in the second round of the tournament). WM 12 was all about the iron man match and wasn't WM 14 about Mike Tyson (I hear so many people credit WWE for bringing him in to boost the event)? I think before Taker's matches were about the streak and were about real conflict with the opponent made for better Wrestlemanias for me.

[piperspitt]

There was always a question of whether Hogan would win his match or be defeated. It was rarely questionable that the Undertaker would win. The first nine wrestlemanias were full of matches that people cared about (even Hilbilly vs Bundy with the midgets, lol)

[HalfBadger]

There was always a question of whether Hogan would win his match or be defeated. It was rarely questionable that the Undertaker would win. The first nine wrestlemanias were full of matches that people cared about (even Hilbilly vs Bundy with the midgets, lol)

LOL @ Bundy getting dog piled by Midgets...

I agree Takerless WM would be better. Especially since he rarely wrestles during the year. If someone beats him, the feud can't go further. Plus it'd be hard for him to feud with an and up comer since he rarely shows up. So his only real opponents are veterans, that don't need that push. If HBK, HHH, Kane etc beat him will anyone care after a couple months? Outside of WM hype, mentioning beating Taker at WM juxtapose to the superstar being a multi former heavy champ, tag champ etc, kinda dilutes the championships...

I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.