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« on: May 09, 2012, 04:52:47 PM »

I just put together a new deck, and I need to figure out how to get a key card from the deck into my opening hand every game. Problem is, I can't for the life of me figure out a way to guarantee it.

I'm working with a Face/Smackdown/Fan Favorite Colon Brothers deck, and the deck needs to start off with Face Stretch in hand, preferably without popping Carlito's Cabana and eating a DTTAH. My pre-match and other relevant cards:

Colon Brothers
First Unified Champions
Carlito's Apple
Signing Appearance

Handicap Match TB
Premiere Smackdown Superstar
Backed by Vickie Guerrero
Banned From Ringside
Smackdown Tag Title Belts (original, as I don't own the TB belts to do the Unified Champions trick. Offhand, is there any combination of Tag Titles the Colons can pack and play together besides the TB Raw and TB Smackdown Titles?)
Smackdown #1 Announcer Funaki
Carlito's Cabana
Second-Generation Caribbean Cool
Interviewed by Mean Gene Okerlund
Unorthodox Style of Wrestling
High-Flying Style
Playing By The Rules

With that combination of cards, I can see something like 21 or 22 cards by my first draw segment, but for whatever reason, can't seem to muster a Face Stretch to save my life. The deck needs to be Smackdown, really, really wants to be Face, and Fan Favorite is preferable to give me Olé and Foley, but not mandatory.

I'd use William Regal, but my SSV is 5 by the time I get to the Manager phase. I can't go Heel for Taunt the Fans, and I don't want to go with Hard Being This Original if I can possibly help it. BASH is right out.

Is there a card, other than the ones I've mentioned above, that would let me search out and keep a non-unique Smackdown Submission? Worst case scenario, I can try to add in Managed by the WWE Divas and try to root through an additional 10 cards, but even then I'm not guaranteed to have a copy in the top half of my deck.

(My math for the "seeing 21 cards" thing, in case I'm missing something here, too: 0SHS + 1 SHS from Handicap Match, + 5 card draws off the 5 Smackdown-branded cards, + 3 cards seen for Funaki, + 3 cards from the discard/redraw effect on Mean Gene, + 1 for the Signing Appearance, + 1 off the Tag belts, +6 drawn off 2nd-Gen, +1 for your first Draw segment. Of those, you lose 3 from Funaki, 3 from Mean Gene, 1 from the Sig, and 2 from 2nd-Gen, and start with an opening hand of 12.)

If I'm cutting anything from the Pre-Match, it's likely Playing By The Rules and/or High-Flying Style, which I'm not making a ton of use of anyway.

Worst case scenario is I go into the game without it, hide the Apple to try and clear out any DTTAH, and pop the Cabana to search it out, but if they go first and get enough F to throw another ACE reversal, or have 2 DTTAH, I'm pretty well spinning my wheels at that point. I'd really rather have something solid, instead.
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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2012, 05:07:01 PM »

Hard being this original?
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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2012, 05:13:32 PM »

No, there's no combination of tag belts besides the TB Raw and Smackdown tags to get two belt cards in the Colons' ring.

You could put in Backstage Donnybrook to see another 12 cards, but that doesn't guarantee you the Stretch.
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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2012, 07:15:42 PM »

Managed by the Dangerous Divas allows for seeing another 10 cards during the Manager phase.  If you have room in the Arsenal you can also stuff an important Action: Run-In in the deck to search for too, perhaps Melina?

Winning Side: MY Side is an in-game ACE to search for a non-Unique maneuver and lets you see 1 more card

This is assuming you're just pulling High Flying Style.

You could also run A No-Show/Funaki Without Fun to fetch a Face Stretch in the pre, remove it from the game, and then Funaki Without Fun to get it back.  Or use the same No Show thing and run Break You to put it to the Ringside (which is far more eminently pick-up-able) but Break You is the riskiest of the options.
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2012, 08:02:45 PM »

Thanks for the suggestions, everyone!

Looking at my options (specifically, the bit where I can only yank Rules and High-Flying Style without messing up the deck, and need at least one of the cards going in to give me +1 capacity) I'm thinking it needs to be Winning Side (since it's free) and either Managed by the Divas or <R> Underestimate the Competition. Divas lets me look at more cards, and I'm sure I can fit in an Action: Run-In somewhere, while Underestimate puts 8 cards into my Ringside, does the one thing I benefit from on HFS better than it does, and if I end up milling the card I need, I can fetch it back with the Smackdown titles. Plus I get my pick of one of the 8 cards I mill from Winning Side.

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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2012, 08:49:39 PM »

Since this is an All Access deck good luck with this strategy since there is so much Break You hate.

No Show for your Face Stretch and play Break You. When you pop No Show remove Break You instead and the Face Stretch should hit your ringside. Pick it up with your non-TB Smackdown Titles. Correct me if that interaction doesn't work. It's not reliable but it's a thought.

Also I'll be honest, I didn't fully read your post, just skimmed it and the responses.
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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2012, 10:16:57 PM »

This is what I used with Colon it worked fairly well but it does make it a IHBTO deck, on the upside it has about a 13 card starting hand size:

Pre-Match:12
Raw Tag Team Title Belts(TB)
Smackdown Tag Team Title Belts(TB)
Managed By Dawn Marie
The Champ is Here!
Premiere Smackdown Superstar
Backed By Smackdown! GM Vickie Guererro
It's Hard Being This Original
Banned From Ringside
The Opening Volley
Carlito's Cabana
Second-Generation Caribbean Cool
Night of Champions
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