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[Drywall]

Repo Man

SHS: 4
SSV: 1

Legend Superstar Ability: Before the game begins you may search your opponent's arsenal, backstage area and backlash deck for 1 object card and pack it in your deck in the appropriate area. It is now considered to have your logo and it cannot be blanked. You may not pack Corners or BASH cards.

[superradjoe]

1) You may need to specify Pre-Match Object or Foreign Object?  Not sure the word "object" catches both.

2) While it fits the gimmick, that's a pretty awful SSA.

[Commissioner D2]

1) You may need to specify Pre-Match Object or Foreign Object?  Not sure the word "object" catches both.

2) While it fits the gimmick, that's a pretty awful SSA.

Actually, it would.

Search Backlash.  Find a Pre-match OBJECT?  Steal it!
Search deck.  Find a Foreign OBJECT?  Steal it!

Same principle IMO as "card with 'leg' in the title" and using Apply IlLEGal Leverage.  It's an object no matter the type.

[superradjoe]

I wasn't sure which is why I used the language I did in the response.  The 2nd statement is still fairly valid.  He'd need real good cards to make it a worthwhile play.  There's not a whole lot you could steal except like JYD's Chain or a few superstar specifics that would make the ability the deal breaker.

[Daeva]

I will admit two things: I do have a Repo Man design that I've been kicking around for a few sets now, and he is in no way a Legend. Classic WWF, definitely, not a Legend.

I do like this take, it's flavorful, but it would need a lot of card support to make it worthwhile, as Joe points out. D2 is also correct that "Object" would catch Foreign Objects and Pre-match Objects. Lots of card support + Repo Man = crushing picture issues, unfortunately.

[Queensryche]

I'm thinking Repo's ability as you've written it Drywall is more fitting for a Pre-Match card rather than as his ability. I think I would do his ability as the following:

Superstar Ability: Your Object cards are Permanent. During your turn, before your Draw Segment, you may discard one card to have your Fortitude considered to be equal to your opponent's Fortitude for the remainder of your turn.

I figure this plays off his catchphrase ("What's mine is mine, and what's yours is mine too!"). If this is too broken, anyone can feel free to modify it, but it's the best I could think up quickly in fitting with the character.

[Daeva]

So that, just... never ends? You discard 3 cards and then for the rest of the game, your F is equal to his F?

[Queensryche]

So that, just... never ends? You discard 3 cards and then for the rest of the game, your F is equal to his F?

Oops. Thanks for pointing that out Daeva!

Modified it. Now lemme know what you think.

[Daeva]

Okay, NOW that's a reasonable duration but that cost is exorbitant, especially since Revo Undertaker gets it passively and for free during his opponent's turn. One or two cards should be plenty.

[Queensryche]

Okay, NOW that's a reasonable duration but that cost is exorbitant, especially since Revo Undertaker gets it passively and for free during his opponent's turn. One or two cards should be plenty.

Alright, I'll change it to one card.

Alternatively, feel free to suggest other possible abilities. I'm interested to see what you're kicking around.

[Daeva]

The first one that I had was very basic. "Your cards are Permanent. Your What's Mine is Mine and What's Yours is Mine cards are -5F and not Active." I did a new version earlier today, but I'm not comfortable sharing it right now.

[Queensryche]

The first one that I had was very basic. "Your cards are Permanent. Your What's Mine is Mine and What's Yours is Mine cards are -5F and not Active." I did a new version earlier today, but I'm not comfortable sharing it right now.

That's cool.

The other possibility I can think of would be benefiting when your opponent plays something that lets him draw cards. Sorta like a reverse version of E&C's SSA.

[Drywall]

I will admit two things: I do have a Repo Man design that I've been kicking around for a few sets now, and he is in no way a Legend. Classic WWF, definitely, not a Legend.

I do like this take, it's flavorful, but it would need a lot of card support to make it worthwhile, as Joe points out. D2 is also correct that "Object" would catch Foreign Objects and Pre-match Objects. Lots of card support + Repo Man = crushing picture issues, unfortunately.

What if you added to his superstar ability to reduce the amount of needed support cards? I know this sounds selfish but I'd rather have tiny Repo than no Repo at all.

This is probably overkill:


Repo Man

SHS: 4
SSV: 1

WWF Superstar Ability: Before the game begins you may search your opponent's arsenal, backstage area and backlash deck for 1 object card and pack it in your deck in the appropriate area. It is now considered to have your logo and it cannot be blanked. You may not pack Corners or BASH cards.
You may pack one Superstar-Specific Pre-Match Object, one Superstar-Specific Mid-Match Object, one Superstar-Specific Action: Object and one Superstar-Specific Maneuver: Object, regardless of their logos.

[Daeva]

Taking your opponent's stuff gets really ugly, really fast. Rude's Custom Tights is about as close as we're willing to get to that.

Likewise, packing other people's stuff raises playtesting overhead by exponential factors. We backed off of making a Classic-compliant generic Corner concept for Raw Guest Host because it was utterly unplaytestable, and something like Repo's Ability is getting close.

As for "a little Repo," Barry Darsow IS in the game, as half of Demolition. Not quite the same, I know...

[Drywall]

Taking your opponent's stuff gets really ugly, really fast. Rude's Custom Tights is about as close as we're willing to get to that.

Likewise, packing other people's stuff raises playtesting overhead by exponential factors. We backed off of making a Classic-compliant generic Corner concept for Raw Guest Host because it was utterly unplaytestable, and something like Repo's Ability is getting close.

As for "a little Repo," Barry Darsow IS in the game, as half of Demolition. Not quite the same, I know...

I totally understand whatcha mean.

Okay, I promise: This is the last one, then I am done.

Repo Man

SHS: 4
SSV: 1

WWF Superstar Ability: You may pack one Superstar-Specific Pre-Match: Object, regardless of superstar logo. It is now considered to have your logo and it cannot be blanked. You may not pack Corners or BASH cards.
Once during your turn you may discard one card and search your arsenal for the card titled "Single Leg Crab" or "Repo Man's Tow Hook", put it into your hand and shuffle your arsenal. When your fortitude rating is less than your opponent's fortitude rating your cards titled "Single Leg Crab" are considered to be Trademark Finisher maneuvers.

Repo Man's Tow Hook
Submission/Set-Up: Foreign Object

Can only be played after a successfully played maneuver.
Cannot be reversed.
When successfully played and damage has been applied you may draw up to 2 cards.
When this card is in your ring area your opponent must discard 1 card to play a maneuver. When he successfully plays a maneuver remove this card from the game.
F: 1
D: 1
RMS

[maskedllama]

What is it about the Repo Man that remains in our memories so long after he has faded? I don't recall any memorable feuds or matches or even the theme music.  Why does he stay fresh in our minds while so many fade away?     Why not Battle Kat or Who or that magic guy Phantasmo or something?

 I'd love for him to be a star so I'm all for the hashing out of his card.  I'm not sure that it will convince the Dev team to make him, but it certainly can't hurt their chances. 

[njbrock22]

What is it about the Repo Man that remains in our memories so long after he has faded? I don't recall any memorable feuds or matches or even the theme music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgxvf0Z0M2Y

you were saying, song got remixed for the 3rd generation Harts though so you'd probably remember THAT theme before this one, also it was Phantasio(aka Del Rios of TNA and Smoky Mountain/USWA fame) not Phantasmo

N.J.

[CRASHER]

What is it about the Repo Man that remains in our memories so long after he has faded? I don't recall any memorable feuds or matches or even the theme music.  Why does he stay fresh in our minds while so many fade away?     Why not Battle Kat or Who or that magic guy Phantasmo or something?

His gimmick was so stupid over the top it makes it easy to remember....much like the Bezerker....he was a waste of time and a king of the count-out (heh would be a funny part of his ability if he ever got one "when you win by count out it is considered a pinfall victory :p )...but HUSS HUSS was so stupid it was memorable!

[Queensryche]

What is it about the Repo Man that remains in our memories so long after he has faded? I don't recall any memorable feuds or matches or even the theme music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgxvf0Z0M2Y

you were saying, song got remixed for the 3rd generation Harts though so you'd probably remember THAT theme before this one, also it was Phantasio(aka Del Rios of TNA and Smoky Mountain/USWA fame) not Phantasmo

N.J.

In a previous thread, I showed you guys this gem. It became a massive club music hit in Japan.

But yeah, like Crasher said, the Repo Man gimmick was so silly and over-the-top that it became burned into our memories. A case of "so bad it's good".

[Drywall]

I give all the credit in the world to Darsow, who played this character so perfectly over the top. Made it VERY entertaining.

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