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[CharismaticZero]

....but I'm not sure if I'm terrified or if I've lost my mind.  When did an unusually deranged Harley Quinn join the WWE?

[Daeva]

NXT Season 3. She's been acting steadily more crazy ever since Daniel Bryan dumped her like a sack of potatoes.

[CharismaticZero]

She seems to have jumped off the deep end with no water in the pool.  I'm trying to figure that end game out.  I want to see her Superstar card.

[Rebort]

Soon Mr. K and the current WWE champion commonly mistaken as Batman will have a go of it.

[CharismaticZero]

Soon Mr. K and the current WWE champion commonly mistaken as Batman will have a go of it.

Since D-Bry is the mastermind behind all this (in my mind.  YES! YES! YES!) does that make Ra's al Ghul?

I was going to pick The Riddler, but Ra's is a much better villian.

[Daeva]

The Riddler is 10x the villain of Ra's al Ghul. Ra's plans very carefully, and he is an accomplished martial artist and swordsman, but his motives are actually pretty pure, he wants to make the world a better place. He just thinks that the best way to do so is by reducing the population of the Earth by about five billion.

Riddler's motivations are far less shades-of-gray, he just wants to have money and prove that he's smarter than everyone else. Plus, his animated incarnation from the 90s was voiced by John Glover. The only way to make him more evil would be to have him make a variation on a dead baby joke... oh, wait, they did that in Arkham Asylum.

[SmartAssAssassin]

I literally LOL'd when i saw this. I heard AJ's music and thought "Really...again. This is getting old quick." And in a matter of seconds did a complete 180.

I actually like this angle if it keeps getting zanier each time.

Of course, too zany can be a bad thing (and Kane knows a thing or two about bad angles.)

[CactusJack2003]

I was dying laughing. Even better was Kane's ridiculous reaction to it. All of his reactions to AJ's antics made this feud better than I thought.

[Rein]

Kane may very well be the most underrated guy of all time.  He has the history, good and bad.  He has the ring work.  He has almost always been over with crowds.  And to the best of my knowledge has been in almost zero backstage trouble, or goes out causing trouble in public or on twitter, etc. 

[Buddha Dudley]

Good article by Grantland author: The Masked Man on AJ and WWE females... I always dig his articles and this is no exception and it has much to do with the thread at hand.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8077091/wwe-diva-aj-brings-depth-cm-punk-daniel-bryan-kane-feud-female-characters-pro-wrestling

[VelaCards]

Good article by Grantland author: The Masked Man on AJ and WWE females... I always dig his articles and this is no exception and it has much to do with the thread at hand.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8077091/wwe-diva-aj-brings-depth-cm-punk-daniel-bryan-kane-feud-female-characters-pro-wrestling

Great article.

VC

[Theren]

Good article by Grantland author: The Masked Man on AJ and WWE females... I always dig his articles and this is no exception and it has much to do with the thread at hand.

http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8077091/wwe-diva-aj-brings-depth-cm-punk-daniel-bryan-kane-feud-female-characters-pro-wrestling

wow, that really does put things in perspective doesn't it

[Buddha Dudley]

wow, that really does put things in perspective doesn't it

I loved the reference of AJ possibly uniting Danielson and Punk as a Heel Mega Powers.  A fanboy can dream...

[CharismaticZero]

Nice.  Insane AJ, a random John Cena Star Wars promo....and Sycho Sid all in one Raw.

[Daeva]

Sycho Sid all in one Raw.

I marked pretty hard for that, I won't lie. Sid is the one guy from SNME that I haven't built yet and really want to.

[thedragonreborn]

wow, that really does put things in perspective doesn't it

I loved the reference of AJ possibly uniting Danielson and Punk as a Heel Mega Powers.  A fanboy can dream...

I'd rather have Heel Mega Powers Punk and DB facing off against (and beating the crap out of more often than not) Cena than the current storyline.  Face Punk is getting boring. 

[CreedP]

See, I don't get that at all.. 'boring'.  Crowd pops huge for him (unlike Cena, where they pop but its mixed with boos), he sells tons of merchandise, he puts on ridiculously good matches.. I fail to see the problem.

I think the issue is having 2 face champions, especially when neither one really has storyline (Punk's a little closer with the A.J. thing, but he's kind of on the fringes of a plotline, heh) they both 'just win'.  Having only one would be okay, but either Punk or Sheamus should be chasing the title - and I'd rather see Sheamus lose it, he's as over as he'll be in that role, let Ziggler take it or something.

CREED

[LordFa9]

Kane may very well be the most underrated guy of all time.  He has the history, good and bad.  He has the ring work.  He has almost always been over with crowds.  And to the best of my knowledge has been in almost zero backstage trouble, or goes out causing trouble in public or on twitter, etc. 

well Punk got where he is by throwing a hissyfit so perhaps Kane is just too goodytwoshoes for his own good?

[Rein]

Kane has played his cards perfect by being a good company man.  He will go in the Hall of Fame,  and definitely have a lifetime legends type contract if he wants it when he's done.  As well as saving his money from all I have heard about the guy, so he is set for life more or less and hasn't had any major medical issues either.

[thedragonreborn]

See, I don't get that at all.. 'boring'.  Crowd pops huge for him (unlike Cena, where they pop but its mixed with boos), he sells tons of merchandise, he puts on ridiculously good matches.. I fail to see the problem.

I think the issue is having 2 face champions, especially when neither one really has storyline (Punk's a little closer with the A.J. thing, but he's kind of on the fringes of a plotline, heh) they both 'just win'.  Having only one would be okay, but either Punk or Sheamus should be chasing the title - and I'd rather see Sheamus lose it, he's as over as he'll be in that role, let Ziggler take it or something.

CREED

I see you're point and want to revise my earlier statement.  CM Punk himself as a face is not boring, but you're right that he has no story.  I mean after making his way back into the main even by being a loud mouth who refused to bow to anybody, now he's stuck in a lame "love triangle" storyline that helps nobody.  Plus it's gone on far too long already.  It's like WWE creative is afraid to start something new with him.  It's worse when I heard that Daniel Bryan was supposed to win the Title, which would have allowed Punk to chase him and solidified DB as a major heel who isn't a one hit wonder.  I also thought that Punk was the guy who was going to oppose John Laurinitis, and suddenly it's all about Cena.

Cena is the other problem.  I am actually a fan of his, but I have to say, if he's not the champion, he shouldn't be the main focus of the show.  He needs to be booked Semi Main because I do realize he is the biggest star the company has, but being a bigger focus than the champ makes the champ look second rate in comparison.

Kane has always been one of my favorite guys.  He definitely solidified himself by always doing what was asked of him.  I mean he should be in the Hall of Fame for enduring Katie Vick and still being over.  He can work with anybody is extremely talented for a big man.  I admire that he remains "dominant" despite losing more often than winning.

[Rein]

I hear fans complain that Kane isn't 'monster' Kane anymore just dominating people, but at this point in his career with I dunno, less than three years or whatever it is to go, that doesn't benefit him.  Even if he got another title run, he is one of the few guys they have willing and capable of putting over younger talent and that's what they desperately need.

[CreedP]

This.  A thousand times this.

I'm tired of THEMONSTERKANE, sick of THEGIANTBIGSHOW, tired of the guys I saw over 10 years ago still taking up main event slots.  Work programs to build new talent, then kick back and coast your way into the Hall of Fame.  And for pete's sake, scale back Cena.. give him some time off, let him shoot a movie or something, have him get 'injured'. 

IMO some of the best times in the WWE were when they had a lot of Main Eventers... Taker, Angle, HHH, Austin, Rock, with Jericho and Rikishi on the fringe.  And they only had one title back then!    Now we have two brands, and it feels like there's less than that.... Sheamus, Punk, Kane, Cena, with Del Rio and Bryan (and Ziggler, sort of) on the fringe.  Move guys like Bryan and Ziggler up to a real main event status (not just the foregone conclusion matches), fill up the mid-card with up-and-comers, and cycle through the talent already.... </rant>

CREED

[thedragonreborn]

This.  A thousand times this.

I'm tired of THEMONSTERKANE, sick of THEGIANTBIGSHOW, tired of the guys I saw over 10 years ago still taking up main event slots.  Work programs to build new talent, then kick back and coast your way into the Hall of Fame.  And for pete's sake, scale back Cena.. give him some time off, let him shoot a movie or something, have him get 'injured'. 

IMO some of the best times in the WWE were when they had a lot of Main Eventers... Taker, Angle, HHH, Austin, Rock, with Jericho and Rikishi on the fringe.  And they only had one title back then!    Now we have two brands, and it feels like there's less than that.... Sheamus, Punk, Kane, Cena, with Del Rio and Bryan (and Ziggler, sort of) on the fringe.  Move guys like Bryan and Ziggler up to a real main event status (not just the foregone conclusion matches), fill up the mid-card with up-and-comers, and cycle through the talent already.... </rant>

CREED

See I know some people are not fans of two brands, two sets of belts, etc, but I always like it.  To mean it meant more guys getting a shot at the main event, more competition among the mid carders for the mid level belts, and more tag teams vying for gold.  The problem is and has been almost since inception, despite having two brands and two sets of champions, the WWE still is reluctant to push new talent until old talent is over used.  The result is that more titles just have less impact because of the lack of credible talent to chase them, and the lack Champions people can actualy be interested in.  My problem with going back to one title is that if that trend continues, a single world champion could be at the top of a mountain of nobodies.  Then there would be less main eventers and the scene would feel even more boring no matter who was on top.

And the Champ should always be on top no matter who it is.  Having Ziggler being a five second place holder did nothing for him.  People don't see him as a main eventer because he wasn't showcased as such, and after "winning" the Title he has shuffled out so fast it wasn't funny.  It was much the same with Jack Swagger.  When he was the Champion they still treated him like a mid carder, so he failed to get over.

[CharismaticZero]

Thank you for AJ Lee!  No matter how little control over mental faculties she actually has, she is driving this show.

[CharismaticZero]

If freakin Hornswoggle is the Anon GM I riot.

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