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« on: July 16, 2012, 08:31:29 PM »

I have this idea to relive Raw Deal expansion by expansion. First tournament only Premiere cards are allowed.  Second you add Fully Loaded, 3rd Backlash, etc right on up to GAB.  I just think it'd be a fun way to relive the evolution of the game and get to play all those decks that were once fun and made completely obsolete a couple expansions later. Thoughts?
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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2012, 08:46:33 PM »

Limiting card pools in my experience just breeds resentment and annoyance.  And woe to those that make a mistake and accidentally pack one card not from the allowed sets.

Pursuant to the Summerslam tournament being publicized by Scotty, theme tournaments where you are limited to the set of Superstars usually go over better because you're limiting the Superstars not the cards that they can pack.

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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2012, 01:04:35 PM »

I like this idea cause it helps people learn how to make decks with certain cards and shows them all the cards from the sets. Great idea crimsonrebel. I may try to do this idea if i can get cards from each set and all

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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2012, 01:10:40 PM »

So what happens when you have players that started during SS3 or later? They get frozen out because they don't have any regular non-TB Kicks and Headlock Takedowns?
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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2012, 01:25:50 PM »

Well no what I would do is this:

  1. Buy enough Starter Decks from the set(s) (at least 2 or 3 of each)
  2. Buy a box of Booster packs or Two to use for those starters
  3. Charge a few bucks to pay for those cards from whoever is playing
  4. Give a Starter deck and packs equal to how many people are playing
  5. Let them build a deck with what they have
  6. Get the tournament started
  7. When building a deck, do 60 Card deck and 10 and 10 backlash deck if possible; If not possible with Backlash
      deck. Poll around to see how many each person pulled from their starter deck and packs and decide how many
      to use so its fair.

If you do this, everyone can get use to the cards from the set and nobody will complain cause of broken plays cause just about everyone will have the cards from the sets

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« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2012, 01:27:24 PM »

I'd love to know where you're finding all of this product for purchase.. Wink

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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2012, 01:43:24 PM »

it was only an idea. if i can find the product online, buy it and use it

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« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2012, 02:07:45 PM »

An alternate version of this, though more complex on the TO's end, would be to get set lists, as well as lists of the starter decks, for each set. Figure out the commonality of each card (using GAB, since the math is done for me on Comic Images' site, there are 25 cards of each commonality, so a 1/25 chance of a given rare, 3/25 of each uncommon, 1/41 chance of each PR, and, I think, 8/25 chance of each common, with a 1/however many packs it was chance of a UR replacing a card) and then randomly generate "packs" for people to open. Rather than use the real cards, just type up "playtest" versions, and have people sleeve them in front of any old cards. Then at each subsequent tournament, open up more "packs" and add.

For a tournament series like this, it's probably not feasible to get real product, so it'd have to be unofficial and heavily reliant on proxies, but it would be fun.

Proxying the cards would make it possible, at least, to run the constructed version of this tournament series that crimsonrebel suggested. If someone wants to pack a card, they can simply check on the set lists; if it's not on one of the legal sets' lists, then it's not legal, but you have access to anything from that era simply by proxying it.

Honestly, gamhhh, I know I don't get in to AU that often anymore, but I'd love to do something like this if I could make it. The second most enjoyable Raw Deal experience I can remember was the Mega Draft I went to in Richmond, and this has some of that same feel, getting to relive everything from square 1. (For those who are curious, we got 1 starter from one of the earlier sets, then the 8 or so players took turns opening 2 or 3 packs each from every Classic set, drafted from them, then built the best deck they could manage from the 20 sets worth of card pool. The draft took about 4 hours by itself, then food and games, but it was awesome to relive the whole era in one draft. I really wish there was enough product left to do that again.)
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« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2012, 06:51:15 PM »

I can see where you are coming from.  I personally like the "Mania" Era.  It was the second set with Backlash cards and it introduced the stipulation.  Card design was getting better and all of the guys from premiere got their first premium rares.  I felt like the game was more balanced at that point than it ever had been.  This era was short lived however because the set after was Summerslam, and I felt like all of the balance that Raw Deal had achieved in mania was thrown out the window.

On a practical level though, Having a series like this would take 2 years to get through assuming you have a tournament once a month.  If you want to limit the card pool, I suggest doing a tournament where only cards with the SS3 logo are legal.  Like a really simple version of afterburn.  Or, like has been stated above, limit the superstar choices.  We've had success with the theme tournaments.  Typically we run themes like: Tag Teams, ECW, WCW, Attitude Era, Legends Only, Intercontinental Champions...ect. These types of tournaments can be fun because it usually allows a player to try a superstar they might not have played otherwise.  However, it is also good to have a good mix of straight regular type tournies too to keep everyones' interest in the main game.
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« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2012, 07:08:31 PM »

Mania was my favorite era as well. Maybe because that's when I was at the highest I ever got in the world rankings (roughly 30).

I had a Cactus Jack deck that was winning at about an 80% clip in a very tough play group in SE MI.
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