**Spoilers** Dark Knight Rises

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[Antigoth]

This thread is for discussion of the movie and Batman specific stuff exclusively. For that other discussion go here


I saw it... I thought Anne Hathaway nailed Catwoman/Selena Kyle exactly as I thought she should be played.

Will post more later, but wanted to get this thread up.

[thedemonkiller]

I can Summarize the film in 4 words. The dark Knight Rises = Best. In. The. World

the film had the prefect ending, it was just... WOW

[Prong1978]

Even though they (Nolan and company) have said this is their last Batman film, I liked the continued "gag" of making a reference to a Bat-villain for the next film.  Did anybody else notice it?  It was somewhat subtle.

I enjoyed the film, but I wouldn't place it above the Dark Knight.  I'm guessing I'll like it even more though after a second viewing though.  If I had any complaint at all, it would be that the movie is really long considering how little screen time Batman gets.  

Film for film, this is about as good as a trilogy gets.

I agree about Hathaway as the Catwoman.  I had my doubts, but her portrayal (and the character as written) is much more accurate to the comic book source material than any other film Catwoman.

On a side note.  The Joker would have been an AMAZING addition to the "prisoners are running the city" section of the film.  

[Antigoth]

I liked the continued "gag" of making a reference to a Bat-villain for the next film.  Did anybody else notice it?  It was somewhat subtle.

I completely missed it. Since we're in spoiler land - who do you think it is?

[Prong1978]

The line was something about pulling a giant alligator out of the sewer.  The comic book bat-villain "Killer Croc" was a mutated Alligator-man that lived in the sewers.

[Drywall]

One problem:

Bane's voice threw me off. I REALLY needed subtitles. He sounded like the ghost doctor from Hellboy 2.

[Wallemania4life]

i loved this movie, not as good as The Dark Knight but close. i love that they actually made Bane a decent character, bane is one guy i never really cared for but that actually made me enjoy him in this film.

[Homeless]

it was ok. i think nolan's movies are too hyped up. inception was good, but not mindblowing like everybody seemed to say at the time. i don't remember enjoying batman begins all that much either. dark knight was probably the better of them. this one seemed more grandiose and it didn't feel like batman, not that he was even in it all that much. he just always looked out of place and goofy.

bane was by far my favorite part of the movie. it was mostly the way he talked. and anne hathaway was a much better catwoman than i was expecting. 

hated the robin reference at the end.

avengers was better.

[JDub]

I thought this movie was better then The Dark Knight. I really liked Batman Begins and was actually a little bit disappointed after seeing TDK. It felt too complicated and was like 2 movies smashed together. Everyone was over hyping that movie just because of the Joker (don't get me wrong the Joker was awesome in that movie). I liked the Avengers as well but I hope it beats Avengers first week at the box office, it deserves to.

[Phenominal1]

I know I'm in the minority on this, but I hated the ending. I actually left the movie pissed after Blake said what his "real name" was on top of the seeing Bruce after the bomb had went off.

[JDub]

I know I'm in the minority on this, but I hated the ending. I actually left the movie pissed after Blake said what his "real name" was on top of the seeing Bruce after the bomb had went off.

Eh the Robin thing wasn't that bad because he actually isn't/won't be Robin so who really cares? If they said Tim Drake or Jason Todd most people wouldn't know who the heck that was.

I wasn't pissed about them showing Bruce at the end but I'd much rather they didn't. Just have Alfred smile and we would all be left wondering. Although depending on where they go from here we might need to know Bruce is alive. He might end up training Blake for all we know.

[Antigoth]

I know I'm in the minority on this, but I hated the ending. I actually left the movie pissed after Blake said what his "real name" was on top of the seeing Bruce after the bomb had went off.

I'm not angry with the ending, and I'm okay with the Robin reference.

However I do feel that the entire ending was too rushed, too "perfect", too "happy", too entirely predictable.

In many ways the entire movie was predictable. As soon as they showed Tate the fusion reactor I knew she was Talia Al-Ghoul.

[JDub]

I know I'm in the minority on this, but I hated the ending. I actually left the movie pissed after Blake said what his "real name" was on top of the seeing Bruce after the bomb had went off.

I'm not angry with the ending, and I'm okay with the Robin reference.

However I do feel that the entire ending was too rushed, too "perfect", too "happy", too entirely predictable.

In many ways the entire movie was predictable. As soon as they showed Tate the fusion reactor I knew she was Talia Al-Ghoul.

I wonder if any of that stuff has to do with the studio trying to push a Justice League movie now or the possibility of more Batman movies where they wouldn't have to do a reboot? Maybe the original ending wasn't so happy?

But honestly I'd rather Batman not die. I just don't see how you can kill off an iconic character like that, especially in film.

[CRASHER]

I can't remember a movie that did such a masterful job of weaving its previous films into it as seamlessly and brilliantly as this one did.....flashbacks, cut scenes.....amazing storytelling and a damn near seamless modernization of the Knightfall storyline (which was the greatest Bat-Story ever told for what it's worth)....was it better then the other 2? I don't care.....it was frankly PERFECT as it was!!

Can't wait to see this one again!

[TheGreatWhiteDope]

It's a great way for Nolan and co to leave and never come back.

Although if they do come back...Nightwing is there for the taking. Would it have been interesting if they straight up killed Batman? Yeah. But eff...he's Batman. And when it comes to Talia, with it being a movie and a different universe, I didn't even think of them following straight through. I honestly just figured they'd go for Baine being the kid and ignore Talia for the story. I enjoy they brought that back in.

I feel terrible for the next set of writers, director, and actors that have to make a new Batman to get ready for JLA. They have to stand up to these three films. Seriously. I'd hate to be them.

Dark Knight was a pretty darn good film (although really sparatic throughout) with fantastic performances. Batman Begins was the better FILM and Rises fits in with both perfectly. Of course, that is always just personal opinion and all that jazz. Because in all honesty it just brings them all together. Begins tells the story of Wayne becoming Batman AND Bruce Wayne with Ras trying to destroy the Wayne legacy. Dark Knight tells the story of a chaotic madman trying to break and destroy Batman (which he does) while sending the city down a drain towards destruction (which he does) and he inadvertantly destroys Bruce Wayne too. Rises is all about finally finishing off exactly what Joker started to do.

Pacing wise across 3 movies the trilogy was fantastic. The story that was woven between the 3 is pretty damn great and I couldn't ask for a better one.

[lotjx]

Film of the year. I can't be more pleased with this movie. Everything was too top notch and emotional. He feel the despair of Gotham and Bruce. You feel the grief of Alfred and you feel the hope of Batman returning. Just amazing. A lot of great fan service in this film. I called the Talia thing even though the flashback makes you question it, but the Robin thing was just awesome. I think people clapped at that and it did get applause at the end.

I do think this is the best film out of the three. And this would be my number 3 trilogy behind Episode 4-6 and Indy. Sorry, LOTR, but the theatrical Return of the King was crap and it did make up for it in the special edition, but still unforgivable not to take the ten minutes to resolve Sauraman and Wormtongue. Honestly, I think the reboot is really Batman Beyond via JGL as Batman. We are not getting a JLA movie even though we should have gotten one by now.

There is a theory that the end is what Alfred wants to see not what happened, so it might be an Inception thing.

[Antigoth]

There is a theory that the end is what Alfred wants to see not what happened, so it might be an Inception thing.

Bale has said he's willing to do a 4th Batman Movie, while Nolan has said "absolutely not" so I suspect that that theory is flawed.

 

[CRASHER]

Bale has said he's willing to do a 4th Batman Movie, while Nolan has said "absolutely not" so I suspect that that theory is flawed.

I'm sure if they rolled and Avengers sized truck full of money up to him, he'd find an inspiration

[Jazzaman]

After not having seen my Dad in about 8 months I went to see this with him today. I absolutely loved it, but for people like my Dad who isn't really savvy when it comes to films, comic books or anything like that he came away making a lot of statements that I except a lot of people like him will make.

Firstly, he thinks Batman is alive after seeing Bale at the end. I'm firmly against that and believe it was just his fantasy.

Secondly, the whole 'Robin' thing was just put in as a throwaway. My Dad now thinks they're plotting a Robin movie. I believe it's been a running theory throughout the 3 movies that Joseph Gordon Levitt was being introduced to take over the reigns as the Bat.

Thirdly, he hated Bane's voice, which I can sort of understand. As intelligent as Bane is in the comics, I think they did a good job of depicting that, even if it required a Darth Vader-esque type of eloquence.

Other than that, the film was fantastic.

Jay

[CreedP]

I said a year ago.. July 20th, 2012, I will be worshiping at the church of Christopher Nolan.  I paid my tribute (twice, in fact, heh) and it was worth every penny.  That was a masterful conclusion to the trilogy, I loved all the nods to things in the previous movies... this really felt like a complete story told in parts, not just 3 films about the same guys, heh.

Minor complaints are basically.. the Bane voice, I couldn't quite make out the words all the time.  And also.. no, that's pretty much it.    (Okay, maybe the part where I paid twice because the guy who bought the tickets got the time wrong, and I didn't see the text earlier in the day, haha.. but that's hardly Nolan's fault!)

I'm too tired to have any more in-depth analysis, but I didn't see the twist coming.. and I'm glad I didn't, heh.  Much more fun when you don't expect it! 

I could stand to see another movie, but if Nolan sticks to his guns, I'm fine with that.  They told an amazing set of stories, it can end right where they left it.

CREED

[TheGreatWhiteDope]

surviving a nuclear blast was a tid-bit ridiculous.

[lotjx]

surviving a nuclear blast was a tid-bit ridiculous.

Tell that to Tony Stark. Again, if you go with Alfred seeing what he wants to see at the end, he doesn't. I like to think he survived, because Batman always has a contingency plan.

[TheGreatWhiteDope]

surviving a nuclear blast was a tid-bit ridiculous.

Tell that to Tony Stark. Again, if you go with Alfred seeing what he wants to see at the end, he doesn't. I like to think he survived, because Batman always has a contingency plan.

To some extent I put it in context. Avengers was a great super-hero film...there were aliens and a bunch of other crazy sci-fi stuff. Dark Knight is far more in the "believable" realm. So it comes off a little bit more ridiculous in Nolan's world.

[CRASHER]

surviving a nuclear blast was a tid-bit ridiculous.

they also don't show the bomb detonating on-screen....it also leaves the chance that he dropped the bomb in the water and got the HELL outta dodge too.....

*edit* least he didn't hide in a refrigerator

[Jazzaman]

Another bit they I forgot is when Alfred is talking to the science guys about the Bat not having an auto pilot. They say that it does and that it was installed 6 months ago by Bruce Wayne. So you can either assume:

1. Bruce knew it had an autopilot but went down with the Bat himself as the ultimate sacrifice.

2. Bruce used the autopilot and got out before the explosion (God knows how, a 6-mile blast radius as they said)

Or 3. Alfred now knows that there was a possibility Bruce used the autopilot, hence he still holds his fantasy as a possibility at the end when he looks across the table and sees him.

Either way, Gotham is screwed. It didn't get blown up, but the nuclear fallout from the tide and crosswinds, not to mention the complete lack of sealife on the coast and no shipping for decades. Bane probably got his wish for anarchy in the end either way

Jay

My parents stayed together for forty years, but that was out of spite.