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[Jason Lai]

I form a Evan Bourne deck. I run into 2 types of deck that really kill me.
1. Is a "McCool deck"
2. Is a "Is all about the game" deck

Other than that, Evan Bourne is very good and flexible. He his "Hard been this Original" is pack in backstage like MVP, It will be wonderful

[Daeva]

Say hello to your friends, Enough Shenanigans and Really, That's Enough Shenanigans. The first protects you from IAATG, the second protects you from more than 3 McCools AND from Backstage Shenanigans.

Or you could drop the Throwback version of Again With This Crap?! after your opponent lays down his second McCool and rip the rest from his Backlash deck, but you'd lose an Original in the process, most likely.

[Jason Lai]

Is Enough Shenanigans and Really, That's Enough Shenanigans. from R4 and R5 ? Because the area im playing dont play R4 and R5 cards. The only R4 or R5 cards we play are NEW superstar cards.

Btw, Throwback version of Again With This Crap. Which set is it from ?

[Daeva]

Enough Shenanigans is from R4, Really, That's Enough Shenanigans and Again With This Crap?! Throwback are from R5.

It's definitely tougher to run the Superstars without the other stuff in the sets. You can save yourself from IAATG with I Want to Play the Game but that won't save you from McCools.

[Jason Lai]

Look like i will have to stay where i am now. Tougher matchup.
If i play "I Want to Play the Game" i will lose 1 "Hard Been This Original"
Actually McCools can be stop by "Hell In a Cell"... So good luck to me !!

[kbjone]

Beth...   

[Koh Lin Song]

Wouldn`t Evan Bourne be like "broken"? I think he`s too strong with the backstage shenigans to "protect " him from the mccool. You hear it.
BTW, I Like Gail Kim. Nice Work There....

[Koh Lin Song]

Btw. Just a suggestion. Can you guys include TNA Wrestlers in future wave??? in Rev 6 Onwards....?? it will be fun to have TNA Wrestlers go against WWE. It Will Be A Fun " Raw Deal War" if you knows what i means.

[BxHO]

Beth's maneuvers arent mean, collosals?

i ask for reversals.....

[dilbert505]

Beth's maneuvers arent mean, collosals?

i ask for reversals.....

Cards are only Mean or Colossal if either the cards themselves say so or your other cards specify that they are (Great Khali, I'm looking at you.) Beth's maneuvers say nothing about them being Mean or Colossal, so they aren't.

[BxHO]

So.. the revolution part of the maneuvers are very hard to reverse =/

[dilbert505]

So.. the revolution part of the maneuvers are very hard to reverse =/

Two Grapple reversals will reverse a Grapple+Hold as easily as they will reverse a Grapple+Grapple. You don't need one reversal for each maneuver type, you only need each reversal to be applicable to the card as a whole.

I expect you're right, however, that they would be hard to reverse with Revolution cards, as they usually reference specific maneuver classes. Fortunately, Beth's an All Axxess superstar, so you'll be able to use the full universe of reversals.

[piperspitt]

Btw. Just a suggestion. Can you guys include TNA Wrestlers in future wave??? in Rev 6 Onwards....?? it will be fun to have TNA Wrestlers go against WWE. It Will Be A Fun " Raw Deal War" if you knows what i means.

the game is WWE Raw Deal, so I really hope not. There are enough WWE wrestlers, legends, and remakes to keep the game going for a long time. So please no TNA.

[MediumSexy]

TNA Raw Deal would be amazing... on it's own. Hell, I love the Raw Deal game engine so much I'd play it if you put the Smurfs on the cards... ("Sweet! I pulled the Jokey's Exploding Gift Box Ultra Rare!")

In my opinion, the Raw Deal engine would have been perfect for a UFS style multi-license fighting/combat game.

[BxHO]

So.. the revolution part of the maneuvers are very hard to reverse =/

Two Grapple reversals will reverse a Grapple+Hold as easily as they will reverse a Grapple+Grapple. You don't need one reversal for each maneuver type, you only need each reversal to be applicable to the card as a whole.

I expect you're right, however, that they would be hard to reverse with Revolution cards, as they usually reference specific maneuver classes. Fortunately, Beth's an All Axxess superstar, so you'll be able to use the full universe of reversals.

mean and collosal increase the universe of reversals..

[CreedP]

Btw. Just a suggestion. Can you guys include TNA Wrestlers in future wave??? in Rev 6 Onwards....?? it will be fun to have TNA Wrestlers go against WWE. It Will Be A Fun " Raw Deal War" if you knows what i means.

the game is WWE Raw Deal, so I really hope not. There are enough WWE wrestlers, legends, and remakes to keep the game going for a long time. So please no TNA.

We did a poll last year, the response was "No thanks".  Some people would like to see TNA, ROH, Chikara.. but for the most part, people like the World Wrestling setting.  Granted we've made 2 exceptions for the biggest non-WWF/WWE names of the modern era (Four Horsemen, Sting) but since WCW got essentially merged with WWE, from wrestlers to titles to PPV names, its considered fair game, heh.

CREED

[originaldeadman88]

Wow with each and every spoiler you put out I get more and more excited for the release of the set! Evan is just amazing! Wanna play him for sure.

[CreedP]

So.. the revolution part of the maneuvers are very hard to reverse =/

Two Grapple reversals will reverse a Grapple+Hold as easily as they will reverse a Grapple+Grapple. You don't need one reversal for each maneuver type, you only need each reversal to be applicable to the card as a whole.
I expect you're right, however, that they would be hard to reverse with Revolution cards, as they usually reference specific maneuver classes. Fortunately, Beth's an All Axxess superstar, so you'll be able to use the full universe of reversals.

Just to add - the cards can be reversed by Once is Enough or Get the F Out... plus A Revolution of the Mind.. plus Revolution reversals, if you're playing them, but most don't (though I could see Matt Striker or Stevie Richards packing a <R> Overexposure or something)... plus the usual Manager/Sloppy/etc.

So if you compare, say, HHH's Bring the Hammer Down to Beth's Brutal Knee Bar, the Knee Bar is actually slightly easier to reverse than HHH's move.

CREED

[mr.slipkchot]

why the maneuvers of Beth are not Colossals or Mean?

[CreedP]

Read the above posts, we already answered that.

CREED

[Dark Knight Bob]

why the maneuvers of Beth are not Colossals or Mean?

IF they were Colossal or Mean they would say they were. Chair Shot is a 10F 10D Maneuver. Chair Shot does not say it is a Mean because Chair Shot is not a Mean. The same goes for any other maneuver that doesn't say it is a Core, Mean, or Colossal: It's because it isn't one.

[piperspitt]

Her cards also are not <revolution> cards so no need for that designation.

[RClaw3:16]

Beth looks fun, bournes ability makes me wish i liked him cause i would play him. lol

[Randy_Trash]

Alright I realize that Evan get's 3 copies of IHBTO in his ring area...assuming he searches for the 2 cards for each copy is he still limited to only playing 1 copy of any card title?  If so what is the benefit of actually having multiple copies of cards in his deck(outside reversals)...or did you guys intentially build him to be based on a one of each card idea?

[Daeva]

Searching for six cards at the start of the game isn't a benefit?

EDIT: Evan isn't capped like Rene is for a reason. Go read Prepare for Takeoff again.

Slow is when someone laps you in the hundred yard dash.